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Not really?

No conviction for him then

Hm. Another one down.

Obviousman wrote: No conviction for him then

Too bad we won't see justice, but at the same time I don't feel that sad.

my serb friends are celebrating.

Badlander wrote:

Obviousman wrote: No conviction for him then

Too bad we won't see justice, but at the same time I don't feel that sad.

Not really sad either, but it's just that I would have rather seen the trial finished, at least some truth uncovered...

Obviousman wrote:Not really sad either, but it's just that I would have rather seen the trial finished, at least some truth uncovered...

Normally I wouldn’t say this but we all know this trial would just be a farce.

christophe wrote:

Obviousman wrote:Not really sad either, but it's just that I would have rather seen the trial finished, at least some truth uncovered...

Normally I wouldn’t say this but we all know this trial would just be a farce.

If I may ask, apart from personal conviction, which is fine by all accounts, how do you know ?

Wot Zeno said. I'd have liked to have seen the bastard face some justice.

boudicca wrote:Wot Zeno said. I'd have liked to have seen the bastard face some justice.

My friends' cousin stole his crockery.

hallucienate wrote:

boudicca wrote:Wot Zeno said. I'd have liked to have seen the bastard face some justice.

My friends' cousin stole his crockery.

As unusual as it is, that's a beginning.

hallucienate wrote:

boudicca wrote:Wot Zeno said. I'd have liked to have seen the bastard face some justice.

My friends' cousin stole his crockery.

And the universe is in harmony once again.

Badlander wrote:If I may ask, apart from personal conviction, which is fine by all accounts, how do you know ?

I not judging the trail itself but only the effects it could have had.
the victimes would not be helped with the fact Milosevic would be convicted (or not) and if there would have been any other people involved I don't think they would be affected after this time.

I don't think the truth would be uncovered.....

christophe wrote:

Badlander wrote:If I may ask, apart from personal conviction, which is fine by all accounts, how do you know ?

I not judging the trail itself but only the effects it could have had.
the victimes would not be helped with the fact Milosevic would be convicted (or not) and if there would have been any other people involved I don't think they would be affected after this time.

I don't think the truth would be uncovered.....

Well, though you're not quite wrong, I think when your leader is being put behind bars by international community is an important thing in the process which brings both the victims to forgive the ones who commited the crimes and the war-criminals realising their deeds weren't the right thing to do.

We'll never see the entire truth, but I'm quite sure we'd have seen more if he got tried properly.

Z is so right.
First, many victims of Milosevic's (or any dictator's for that matter) madness are longing for justice, recognition that what was done simply isn't right.
And then the fight against impunity is also a signal sent to all political leaders worldwide, that they have to account for their decisions, especially in times of crisis. The existence of the ICC, especially, means that political and miltary leaders can't do what they want, launch wars, violate human rights on a regular basis, and get away with it.
It's not the end of the story but it's a step in the right direction.

however the bloke was a cunt and at least he's no longer using up valuable oxygen that my kids could breathe.

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:however the bloke was a cunt and at least he's no longer using up valuable oxygen that my kids could breathe.

Obviousman wrote:

Not really?

No conviction for him then

The man has been in prison for five years. Was angry, depressed, pretty sick all the time and now he's dead.

Sounds like a conviction of another kind...

Ozpat wrote:

Obviousman wrote:

Not really?

No conviction for him then

The man has been in prison for five years. Was angry, depressed, pretty sick all the time and now he's dead.

Sounds like a conviction of another kind...

Just like the Pinochet case. He wasn't convicted, but at least we gave him a hard time. We set a precedent, so that wannabe dictators will think twice next time. Hopefully.