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the sisters' black october / hawkwind's black september?
Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 17:46
by Quiff Boy
we all know von's love of classic 70s rock - and the fact that the sisters' some-time alter ago "the speed kings" took the name from
a deep purple track - but what about this one?
Hawkwind - Hassan I Sahba
Hawkwind wrote:Black-September Black-September
Black-September Black-September
Black-September
Black-September
Black-September
complete lyrics
ignoring the obvious 9/11 references (:o), do we think that von might have borrowed the title for the sisters'
black october tour from hawkwind's lyric?
hawkwind song snippet here (i gather)
Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 17:48
by Quiff Boy
note:
Hawkwind also wrote:gardens of delight
Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 17:52
by mh
Also known as "Assassins of Allah".
Hawkwind wrote:Petro-dollar Petro-dollar
Petrol-D'allah Petrol-D'allah
Petro-dollar
Petro-dollar
Petro-dollar
Also very Von-ish.
Von would certainly have been aware of the 'Wind right from the start, being a Motorhead fan, so it's beyond the realms of possibility at all.
Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 17:57
by weebleswobble
- Back in Black - AC/DC
Paint it Black - The Rolling Stones
Black Math - The White Stripes
Black Hole Sun - Soundgarden
Fear of a Black Planet - Pubic Enema
Black Star - Radiohead
At the end of the great white pier
I see a
Black
Black planet
Black
Black world
Everybody is doin' the Goth
F*ck all to do with your thread
Herr Quiff just thought I'd ramble on....
Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 18:50
by Dark
weebleswobble wrote:Pubic Enema
Re: the sisters' black october / hawkwind's black september?
Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 19:48
by Red_Kola
Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 20:05
by Mr Thorburn
sounds about right mr quiffy.
didnt mr adams once fess up to pinching several of the early sisters basslines from uriah heap tunes?
i also recall that the 'circle with a circle cut out of it ' logo from the black october tour was also 'borrowed' from the design on the badges worn by bus conductors in the leeds municipal area at the time.
tickets please.
Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 20:11
by James Blast
Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Hawkwind all good stuff
must try and shoehorn some early Genesis in there, howzabout White Mountain offa Tresspass?
Posted: 04 Jul 2006, 03:00
by Silver_Owl
weebleswobble wrote:- Back in Black - AC/DC
Paint it Black - The Rolling Stones
Black Math - The White Stripes
Black Hole Sun - Soundgarden
Fear of a Black Planet - Pubic Enema
Black Star - Radiohead
At the end of the great white pier
I see a
Black
Black planet
Black
Black world
Everybody is doin' the Goth
F*ck all to do with your thread
Herr Quiff just thought I'd ramble on....
'Black! Black! You lock me in the cellar and feed me pins!
Re: the sisters' black october / hawkwind's black september?
Posted: 04 Jul 2006, 09:50
by Quiff Boy
i didnt know that
ta
The Black September Organization (BSO) was a Palestinian terror group, founded in 1970. The group's name came from the conflict known as Black September...The BSO is best known for the kidnap and murder of 11 Israeli athletes, and the murder of a German police officer, during the September 1972 attack on the Olympic Village in Munich, Germany, which became known as the Munich massacre.
blimey
September 1970 is known as the Black September in Arab history and sometimes is referred to as the "era of regrettable events". It was a month when Hashemite King Hussein of Jordan moved to quash an attempt by Palestinian organizations to overthrow his monarchy. The violence resulted in heavy civilian Palestinian casualties. Armed conflict lasted until July 1971 with the expulsion of the PLO and thousands of Palestinians to Lebanon.
Posted: 04 Jul 2006, 10:31
by deadagain
Hom_Corleone wrote:weebleswobble wrote:- Back in Black - AC/DC
Paint it Black - The Rolling Stones
Black Math - The White Stripes
Black Hole Sun - Soundgarden
Fear of a Black Planet - Pubic Enema
Black Star - Radiohead
At the end of the great white pier
I see a
Black
Black planet
Black
Black world
Everybody is doin' the Goth
F*ck all to do with your thread
Herr Quiff just thought I'd ramble on....
'Black! Black! You lock me in the cellar and feed me pins!
we crawl on our knees towards our doom, mother...
Posted: 04 Jul 2006, 14:06
by mh
And while we're on the subject...
I was just listening to In Search Of Space, and having a look through The Hawkwind Log (even barmier than the booklet that comes with Space Ritual!) when I saw a drawing that looks suspiciously like the cover of the Return To Arkham bootleg.
As soon as I get my scanner working again, y'know.
Posted: 04 Jul 2006, 23:38
by wild bill buttock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashshashin
I think Calvert was likening the 70's Black September movement with the ancient muslim sect "The Hashashin".Pretty prophetic stuff in the light of 11th September 2001.
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 19:41
by Grison
Nice to see some fellow Hawkfans here too
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 20:10
by James Blast
Grison wrote:Nice to see some fellow Hawkfans here too
I, Blood Brother Be!
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 20:13
by Ramone
October is usually associated with Black History month - the blacks where an oppressed race, so where the Goths. Goths traditionally wear black - it's dark at night , almost Black. It all makes sense. The tour was called Black October 'cos it where Black History month!! So maybe underneath all that hair n glasses persona, Eldritch is actually an African-American called Leroy Umbongo -Katanga from 162nd Street Harlem, New York..Yo !!
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 20:21
by James Blast
Bollocks! Ramone
It is all about the Black September movement, I never thought to mention it as I thought it was common knowledge, seems not.
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 20:26
by Dark
It's a colour and a month.
Green December, incoming!
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 20:35
by canon docre
I don't get it. The tour was in October and the Sisters wore black. It's sometimes that simple, isn't it?
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 20:37
by Silver_Owl
Ramone wrote:So maybe underneath all that hair n glasses persona, Eldritch is actually an African-American called Leroy Umbongo -Katanga from 162nd Street Harlem, New York..Yo !!
Not that you're stereotyping or anything.
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 21:18
by Ramone
I love it when you lot take life so seriously ... One was joking about Black History month and Eldritch being a brother:) and as for Racially stereotyping people.. your taking the p*ss right?
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 21:25
by Silver_Owl
Ramone wrote:I love it when you lot take life so seriously ... One was joking about Black History month and Eldritch being a brother:) and as for Racially stereotyping people.. your taking the p*ss right?
Life? Serious? Me?
Nah.
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 21:30
by wild bill buttock
Are you saying Von's not black then?
Shave his beard off,a bit of the old Al Jolson paint,and Hey Presto-Errol Brown of Hot chocolate.
"Emma" is a dead give-a-way.
Or maybe in 1985......
Your my wife now Wayne.
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 21:31
by Ramone
I like this Coleone fella, we kinda think alike, when I die he can have all my Sisters stuff - and to prove I really like him ; My Mishun stuff too ( sorry that may not sound as appealing as it sounds) Yo !
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 21:57
by Silver_Owl
Ramone wrote:I like this Coleone fella, we kinda think alike, when I die he can have all my Sisters stuff - and to prove I really like him ; My Mishun stuff too ( sorry that may not sound as appealing as it sounds) Yo !
I love you Ramone and I want your children.
However, please don't make me have the back catalogue of famous Chinese singer songwriter That Guitarist. It just ain't my bag of rice.