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Speculation...
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 14:15
by Doktor Gott
Got an SMS from my ex whilst in Leeds..
Turns out she was hobnobbing with Ben in London - well she bumped into him in the Devvy on the Saturday..
Word is, he's off to Istanbul for a bit and then he's going to see about getting new music recorded if Andrew agrees to it..
Chances of that.. but still it's a sliver of hope..
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 14:17
by aims
Omigod!!!!!!!!!! ^___________^
Ahem.
Re: Speculation...
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 14:41
by markfiend
Doktor Gott wrote:if Andrew agrees to it.
*ahem*
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 14:43
by aims
I don't doubt that Andrew will agree to recording it. It's whether or not he'll agree to releasing it
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 14:46
by markfiend
Motz wrote:I don't doubt that Andrew will agree to recording it. It's whether or not he'll agree to releasing it
Very true.
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 15:46
by aims
Summer b/w Still
Please, Andrew?
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 17:03
by christophe
I don't understand why he would make a statement like that while Andrew still would have to make the decission.
its not like Ben has something to say about it.... ?
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 17:12
by Doktor Gott
christophe wrote:I don't understand why he would make a statement like that while Andrew still would have to make the decission.
its not like Ben has something to say about it.... ?
Its more idle chatter, perhaps its what he would like to do, rather than what there is any chance of happening.. but at least he would want to..
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 17:25
by christophe
Doktor Gott wrote:Its more idle chatter, perhaps its what he would like to do, rather than what there is any chance of happening.. but at least he would want to..
at least its a bit more hopefull from whatever we got from Adam Pearson
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 17:39
by Karst
Summer and quite a few other tracks were written by Pearson. If the stories are true about him blocking a release I'd say it will be unlikely. And to be honest, the only people I see interested in this are SPV.
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 17:45
by Obviousman
Well, the rumour always was Pearson was blocking stuff indeed, but wouldn't know how keen Von'd actually be to release anything at all
Just crossing fingers, as always, isn't it
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 17:50
by christophe
maybe Pearson advised him not to releas anything anymore but the way i see it, its all up to Andrew.
has Pearson any legual hold on these songs? if he has indeed written them.
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 17:59
by aims
If they pay him royalties, he can't stop them from releasing them as "covers".
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 18:56
by mh
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
(gasp)
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
(gasp)
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
(It'll never see the light of day, of course)
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 19:29
by christophe
Motz wrote:If they pay him royalties, he can't stop them from releasing them as "covers".
but why? its not like they have ever released it or anything? how can he prove he had written them? i'm problably talking bull-s**t but ...
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 19:38
by aims
IIRC, someone, probably
canon docre, mentioned that the new songs were registered with ASCAP or a similar organisation as Eldritch/Pearson, which gives him a pretty convincing claim on the copyright
It's basically the same situation as with the people who write pop songs - they're never going to release them themselves, but they still get paid royalties as the original composer.
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 19:38
by mh
They're on the official website, with references to EMI publishing, so the band still have a publishing contract, and presumably everything is all nice and legal as a result of that.
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 19:43
by christophe
ok thanks, I didn't know it works that way
and I didn't even know the new songs were registered.
and thanks
canon docre:
see next post
Posted: 19 Jul 2006, 19:45
by canon docre
christophe wrote:Motz wrote:If they pay him royalties, he can't stop them from releasing them as "covers".
but why? its not like they have ever released it or anything? how can he prove he had written them? i'm problably talking bull-s**t but ...
ah, I see another question for Jessie the music bizz wizz kid.
If a song is finished, it's a wise idea to register it at the usual "musical rights protecion societies". Because, if the song is being played live by whoever, the authors get money.
It has nothing to do whether a song is previously released on a record or not.
edit: oh I got overtaken by the other bizz kids.
Posted: 20 Jul 2006, 06:45
by Ozpat
We'll just have to wait and see what happens....
And keep the fingers crossed.
Posted: 20 Jul 2006, 23:54
by Multifaceted
So, while I'm de-lurking....
Did anyone else who met Ben at the concerts find him a little bit too... "youthfully optimistic"? I think there's a better expression, but I can't find it.
He seemed really nice, of course! But he seemed so animated and enthusiastic about things related to The Sisters, even if he didn't seem sure about the "future" of his ideas for songs and such himself.
In short, I guess he seemed just like everyone else in this thread.
Re: Speculation...
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 06:04
by Delilah
Doktor Gott wrote: he's going to see about getting new music recorded.
maybe he meant his own music, not The Sisters...
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 08:55
by Badlander
Multifaceted wrote:
Did anyone else who met Ben at the concerts find him a little bit too... "youthfully optimistic"? I think there's a better expression, but I can't find it.
Maybe, but he's in a much better position than anyone on this forum, just because he's
in the band.
A little optimism on his part doesn't hurt. Von doesn't need someone to tell him "Oh, let's not release anything..."
And maybe that's why Von brought him in...
Re: Speculation...
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 09:35
by Obviousman
Delilah wrote:Doktor Gott wrote: he's going to see about getting new music recorded.
maybe he meant his own music, not The Sisters...
Yes please
Posted: 21 Jul 2006, 14:34
by Reptile
Doktor Gott
Word is, he's off to Istanbul for a bit and then he's going to see about getting new music recorded if Andrew agrees to it..
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