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Guns N Roses
Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 18:57
by Gary
Has anyone else been to see G'N'R's on there current tour?
Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 19:03
by Pat
Yes, but doesn't Axl Rose look a bit like Mick Hucknall these days.Cracking gig in Glasgow BTW.(and they murdered KOHD aye,aye aye ayeeee)
Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 19:27
by weebleswobble
He wears a fine wig, it must be
stapled to his heed
Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 19:46
by canon docre
a good 40 min of Greatest Hits, starting with Welcome to the Jungle.
The rest of the 2 1/2 hour set at Rock am Ring consisting of various solos from unknown musicians wasnt exactly entertaining.
If you want a fecking long guitar solo, get at least that idiot Slash on stage, godammit.
At Donington people were rioting after his show, burning down their tents.
Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 20:36
by SomeKindOfStranger
Saw them at the hammersmith apollo the week before their donnington gig. I was pleasantly suprised at how good the band were, but have to agree that the number of solos was a bit unneccessary.
Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 21:02
by Pat
I thought the instrumental version of one of Pink's tunes was pleasant enough,but 3 guitar solos was a bit much.A fine evening of nostalgia and self indulgance.
Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 21:32
by christophe
I have seen them yes.
the songs are still top but the band is one big circus and yes, those solo's are terrible.
I must say I was never a big fan but after I had to see this my respect has taken a Big dive.
Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 22:23
by James Blast
Wot, no drum solo?
And I will wager anything you wish that the guitar solos weren't as heinous as any of the three Kirk Hamster attempted on the last Metallica show I saw (c. Snakepit tour).
They were just "I'm on drugs, the wrong drugs... I can't find my fingers drugs"
I do believe I could have done better.
Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 22:54
by dtsom
guns and roses gig in Madrid was awfull!!!
it should have started at 10 pm but untill 12 they dididn´t start. in was on tuesday and the people the next day had to work!!
all the people start to insult them and throw bottles to the stage....
they opened whit WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE and it was the only song that the people dance. from this song on, all the people was just shouting and insult to AXEL...
and the tickest price was 40 euros!!!
Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 23:36
by SomeKindOfStranger
At hammersmith they came on at 2230. we had to leave at 0030 and they were still playing (take note
!)
The crowd were restless, but one the band started the atmosphere was fantastic - everyone sung and danced to almost everything.
Posted: 24 Jul 2006, 23:37
by Planet Dave
Sounds like they've slipped into their early 90s 'style', ie long solos and not a lot else. Their Leeds Festival gig in 2002 was corking, only the one solo (was it the Star Wars theme or summat?), and a shedload of banging hits including a lot of AFD. Ah well.
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 09:49
by markfiend
Guns N Roses?
Guns N Roses?
Guns N Fecking Roses?
It's not though is it? It's fecking Waxl plus hired hands. Velvet
Revolver (yes, Velvet Revolver, not Velvet Goldmine) have more right to call themselves Guns N Roses than this shower.
One of the great injustices of the 1990s: Kurt Cobain died, Axl Rose didn't.
I'm sorry but I despise the man.
(Edited: See Badlander's post below )
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 10:00
by Badlander
markfiend wrote:Velvet Goldmine have more right to call themselves Guns N Roses than this shower.
Uh ?
But maybe I just didn't get the joke...
I'm sorry but I despise the man.
I'm with you on this : this Axl guy is such a sucker ! But I didn't like Nirvana either.
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 10:26
by markfiend
No sorry you're right.
It's easy to get names wrong when you're off on a rant.
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 13:38
by FiveLeavesLeft
It's nice that Izzy and Axl have reconciled though. Izzy will always be the coolest member of that group.
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 14:35
by Spiggy's hat
Allegedly the the band were 90 minutes late coming on stage in Newcastle, because Axl decided he wanted a roast lamb dinner at the last minute.
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 14:47
by markfiend
See? What a tool.
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 15:21
by Ramone
I saw Guns n ' Roses back in 1987 ,Once at Donnington ( the infamous death gig) and at Rock City supported by Faster Pussycat. At that time, with the classic line-up, G n' R where the coolest f-in band on the planet. The Image, the attitude, the songs .Without a shadow of a doubt, at that time in their career, they where every one's ideal dream image of what you thought being in a rock band would be all about.
None of this KOHD extended reggae bollocks, no ten minute solos , no coming on an hour late and absuing the crowd's inteligence and loyalty and no show biz tantrums.
At Rock City they where bang on time ; It's So Easy followed by Mr Bownstone then it was classic Guns one after the other. I've seen tons of gigs at Rock City over the years (the Nephs, Slayer, Anthrax , the m*****n, New Model Army..) but I don't think any of them came close to the Guns n Roses show. And I think it was only about a fiver to get in!
A friend of mine went to see G n' R in Manchester this week. And his report was almost identical to what I've read on this thread. Turning up late, mouthing off at people in the crowd and the lack of any one you can relate to in the band on stage. And it cost over thirty quid - just to get in.
It can almost equate Guns to the Sisters. Back in the 80's they were both at the top of their game - but the version your seeing now is just some sort of Kareeoke (?) one that you'd see playing at some holiday camp. It;s a shame when you conisder that all the members of both bands are alive and still in the business (unlike the Ramones waaaahhh) how much would we love to just see ,for 90 minutes one night, the classic line-up of either band just one more time! I know I would, and I'msure I'm not the only one . Am I right - or am I right?
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 15:39
by markfiend
Ramone wrote:It can almost equate Guns to the Sisters. Back in the 80's they were both at the top of their game - but the version your seeing now is just some sort of Kareeoke (?) one that you'd see playing at some holiday camp. It;s a shame when you conisder that all the members of both bands are alive and still in the business (unlike the Ramones waaaahhh) how much would we love to just see ,for 90 minutes one night, the classic line-up of either band just one more time! I know I would, and I'msure I'm not the only one . Am I right - or am I right?
(It's spelled Karaoke if you really want to know)
Ahem, anyway...
It's definitely a point. We know the arguments, "Andrew doesn't want to rest on former glories", "The Sisters aren't just a nostalgia act", yada yada...
But the Eldritch / Marx / Adams / Hussey lineup back together? We know it's not going to happen, but like you say, a 90 minute one off...
We can dream
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 15:55
by Ramone
It's definitely a point. We know the arguments, "Andrew doesn't want to rest on former glories", "The Sisters aren't just a nostalgia act", yada yada...
I love quotes like that from people like Eldritch. If it wasn't for his 'former glories' most people wouldn't be going to see his show today. They 'want' to hear Temple, Alice, Floorshow - loud and in the flesh.
Some artists have tried to not rest on their laurels and rely on an 'all new show' with maybe one or two 'nostalgia' tracks. And you've all been there, and it's horrible.
Madonna. When she played Earls Court on her 'drowned world' tour, she played stuff off her last TWO albums and played only two 'old favourites' as it where. And I have to say, for the time, money, putting up with the ex girlfriend for two days and having to suffer lots strange foreign guys who all looked like Fez off the 70's show, it was a big let down. But on the ' Re- Invention' tour it was 'classic Madonna' , every tune was hit or at least the more listenable stuff off the newer albums. And this what her audience wanted. No self indulgent s**t.
If Eldritch is trying to convince himself he dosen't want to rely on his back catalogue fill out his shows - he's very much mistaken. mainly due to the fact that the majority of his material is OLD stuff ( no NEW releases since Vision Thing) and from I've read, the new stuff is no where near the standard of what he used to churn out - maybe he needs to take a leaf outta Madonna's book and it's time to Re-Invent himself too. Becuase sooner or later the crowd are going to get bored and turn on him - One tour, one time, the classic line up. Bury the name the Sisters of Mercy and Then he can wipe away the old ghosts and start a fresh .
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 16:10
by markfiend
The best of the "new" Sisters songs are mostly getting on for a decade old now anyway...
Another case in point: The Rolling Stones. I'm willing to bet they don't just do tracks off their most recent album.
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 16:11
by wild bill buttock
Guns N roses were s**t,are s**t always will be s**t.s**t s**t s**t y s**t s**t(and as Herr Blast would say)FACT.
I blame Guns and roses and Bon jovi for turning Heavy metal/Rock from an almost credible musical genre into a crock of cliched crap.
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 16:15
by Ramone
Oh dear, me thinks Wild Bill sported a very fetching mullet and wore some very natty tight faded denims in his day.. and now is feeling the shame by dismissing the genre he once worshipped
Or maybe he really does just actually hate Bon Jon Bovi.. as we all should do. The ponce.
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 16:31
by wild bill buttock
Ramone wrote:Oh dear, me thinks Wild Bill sported a very fetching mullet and wore some very natty tight faded denims in his day.. and now is feeling the shame by dismissing the genre he once worshipped
Or maybe he really does just actually hate Bon Jon Bovi.. as we all should do. The ponce.
Er.....The second one
Honest.
.
I've always was a bit of a closet rockist but as soon as I heard that "Umpah umpah umpah" opening from "Living on a prayer",I knew me and rock could never be romantically involved again.
Posted: 25 Jul 2006, 16:59
by Badlander
Ramone wrote:
Madonna. When she played Earls Court on her 'drowned world' tour, she played stuff off her last TWO albums and played only two 'old favourites' as it where. And I have to say, for the time, money, putting up with the ex girlfriend for two days and having to suffer lots strange foreign guys who all looked like Fez off the 70's show, it was a big let down. But on the ' Re- Invention' tour it was 'classic Madonna' , every tune was hit or at least the more listenable stuff off the newer albums. And this what her audience wanted. No self indulgent s**t.
Whatever songs Madonna plays, wherever, whenever, I'll never ever go to one of her shows.
Please don't compare Madonna and the Girls, they're just not in the same league.
Is that possible that some of us actually
enjoy the "new" songs ? I do. And I'm not interested in a reunion. Was the Christian Death 1993 reunion (Iconologia) such a bright idea anyway ? Not quite sure.