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Andy's Echo
Posted: 27 Aug 2006, 16:43
by robertzombie
How does Andy get his voice to echo at live performances? Is it a pedal? a button on the microphone?
Re: Andy's Echo
Posted: 27 Aug 2006, 17:04
by Badlander
robertzombie wrote:How does Andy get his voice to echo at live performances? Is it a pedal? a button on the microphone?
Funny you didn't mention the Nurse.
Well I guess he must be doing
something.
Posted: 27 Aug 2006, 17:14
by TheBoyNextDoor
I think it's controlled by MIDI, as the effects on the guitars and so on.
They mention it
here, under TC Electronics G Force.
Posted: 27 Aug 2006, 17:20
by aims
It's probably some outboard kit (a delay/echo/reverb unit) at the desk controlled by the sound engineer, but you could achieve a similar effect with a pedal or portable unit, provided that your mic is putting out a line level signal or is suitably pre-amp'd. As I guess you're on a budget, you might want to look at an
Alesis Picoverb - it's not footswitchable, but it has a decent number of presets for you to play with and isn't too difficult to switch between songs - that said, coupled with an AB switch, it could act as a pedal anyways.
Posted: 27 Aug 2006, 17:21
by Dark
I'd imagine he'd just put a delay guitar pedal on the mic and go from there.
That's what I'll be doing.
Posted: 27 Aug 2006, 17:24
by aims
Nah. Outboard units all the way. Reverb by nature will be very different in the monitor mix to the PA mix, so it would be suicide to have someone controlling it on stage when everything else is set up perfectly - fine for an amateur band, ridiculous for one with their own PA setup.
Posted: 27 Aug 2006, 19:00
by Izzy HaveMercy
Eldo's voice driven by the G-force does sound very plausble. There are some good pics and vids around, where you can see that Andrew does not fuss around with pedals and the like. He doesn't even fuss around with cables, as he used wireless mics the whole time.
GEEKY EXPLANATION:
Nurse controls the effects via MIDI, which is easily done when sync'ing the doctor, and all Andrew has to do is sing at least a couple of milliseconds in tempo. Most of the time he pulls it off rather nicely.
We do the same with FGG when on stage, but we use software plugins on the laptop. SAM controls everything in Ableton Live and Reason, and sends/returns Ed's vocal signal through a mini-mixer on stage. The same happens with the wood-instruments Ed uses. The music is in tempo, and the effect is sync'ed with the micro input. The number-crunching for the software (also called Latency) only differs a couple of milliseconds in the worst case scenario, and Ed can be a tad too early/late, but the effect takes place anyway, as long as Ed sings/rattles for a couple of secs, until the effect kicks in.
Nice stuff, MIDI. Not for REAL musicians, mind
IZ.
Posted: 28 Aug 2006, 22:21
by Maisey
He has double the amount of back facing amps, so his voice feeds back though the mic
Posted: 06 Sep 2006, 12:52
by nigel d
i went ht ebay route and got a peavey adverb for about £30, all midi all dancing multi fx chorus delay flanger, and rack mountable. plug that into the laptop and launch sequencer away we go go go
Posted: 06 Sep 2006, 22:46
by Maisey
cool, discworld fan. I am starting toi read my whole discworld collection in order. i just wanted to share that.
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 12:07
by Jim
I hate midi - lag city. We're thinking of going back to mp3 for live.
Posted: 21 Sep 2006, 16:12
by Deviate_Love
As mr. Robochrist stated in a message I received from him a while ago: all effects are being controlled by midi. Be it the guitar stuff or the vocal stuff...it's all triggered. The guitarists do have the option of some adlib inprovisation by using the footswitches but in general it is a set deal.
Posted: 21 Sep 2006, 16:31
by Izzy HaveMercy
Maisey wrote:cool, discworld fan. I am starting toi read my whole discworld collection in order. i just wanted to share that.
Been there, done that, DID like it, started all over again!
IZ.