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Pope Benedict XVI sticks his foot in his mouth
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 11:10
by markfiend
I'm sure everyone's seen the furore caused by the Pope's comments about Islam. What I was wondering is whether anyone noticed that earlier that same day...
The Pope wrote:It is important to state clearly the God in whom we believe. Only this can free us from being afraid of God — which is ultimately at the root of modern atheism. Only this God saves us from being afraid of the world and from anxiety before the emptiness of life.
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So Joseph Ratzinger, commonly held to be one of the finest theologians of modern times, thinks that atheism is rooted in a
fear of God?
Wow. Thanks, Pope, thanks for telling me that I'm afraid of a God that
I don't believe exists. Perhaps he thinks that the reason I don't believe in unicorns is that I'm frightened of them too?
It's a good job that no atheist has reacted to this deeply offensive comment by running out and
shooting a nun in the back eh?
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 11:37
by stefan moermans
we don't need no water
let the motherf*cker burn
Re: Pope Benedict XVI sticks his foot in his mouth
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 11:51
by mugabe
markfiend wrote:It's a good job that no atheist has reacted to this deeply offensive comment by running out and
shooting a nun in the back eh?
Especially since Catholic nuns are held in such
high esteem on the African continent.
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 14:09
by markfiend
What the Pope quoted that caused offence was this:
Manuel II Paleologus wrote:Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread the sword by the faith he preached
and while he
may have a point, it is a case of
"Oh kettle thou art black," quoth the pot
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 14:30
by 9while9
markfiend wrote:What the Pope quoted that caused offence was this:
Manuel II Paleologus wrote:Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread the sword by the faith he preached
and while he
may have a point, it is a case of
"Oh kettle thou art black," quoth the pot
Your just upset because we all know you are
God Fearing.
And Remember,
"NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!" Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 16:33
by emilystrange
AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH a religion thread
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 16:36
by markfiend
emilystrange wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH a religion thread
Sorry
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 16:40
by emilystrange
no you're not.
i HATE being catholic
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 16:54
by Dark
So don't be. I'm sure they've invented a cure for it.
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 17:00
by emilystrange
i haven't practised at it for many many years.
doesn't stop you..
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 17:19
by nick the stripper
Yes, I’m petrified of a fictional character.
His statement ‘anxiety before the emptiness of life’ says more about Catholics than atheists - I’m quite comfortable in a world void of ‘objective’ meaning and get a good chuckle out of it; the pope, evidently, would not be so.
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 18:19
by James Blast
<------incurable
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 18:33
by nick the stripper
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 18:35
by James Blast
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 19:00
by nick the stripper
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 19:22
by boudicca
James Blast wrote:
It's the Siouxsie version of the Lord's Prayer you want.
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 19:28
by James Blast
there's nothing left but faith...
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 19:33
by boudicca
James Blast wrote:there's nothing left but faith...
Very nihilistic for someone who believes in The Big Man...
(I don't mean Simon)
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 19:59
by Maisey
In no way am I siding with the pope here, being a hard-line athiest. (Cure for catholosim by the way, athiesim in one large dose per lifetime)
But...
"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."
On Friday, hardline cleric Sheikh Abubakar Hassan Malin told worshippers at his mosque to hunt down and kill whoever offended the Prophet Mohammed.
Great you bloody stupid cleric. That'll really help the overall muslim comumity. "Oi! We don't preach with the sword you bastards! You dis Islam like that again and we'll kill you f**king dead"
Real clever mate.
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 20:04
by canon docre
Maisey wrote:
"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."
On Friday, hardline cleric Sheikh Abubakar Hassan Malin told worshippers at his mosque to hunt down and kill whoever offended the Prophet Mohammed.
Looks like Pappa Ratzi was quite acurate here.
@Maisey. don't mix cause and effect.
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 20:22
by 9while9
Maisey wrote:In no way am I siding with the pope here, being a hard-line athiest. (Cure for catholosim by the way, athiesim in one large dose per lifetime)
But...
"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."
On Friday, hardline cleric Sheikh Abubakar Hassan Malin told worshippers at his mosque to hunt down and kill whoever offended the Prophet Mohammed.
Great you bloody stupid cleric. That'll really help the overall muslim comumity. "Oi! We don't preach with the sword you bastards! You dis Islam like that again and we'll kill you f**king dead"
Real clever mate.
Very good point Maisey.
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 20:31
by James Blast
... and I thought "cause and effect" went hand in hand?
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 20:33
by Big Si
James Blast wrote:... and I thought "cause and effect" went hand in hand?
"...well the Devil may care, but I don't mind"
Sorry!
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 20:37
by 9while9
Big Si wrote:James Blast wrote:... and I thought "cause and effect" went hand in hand?
"...well the Devil may care, but I don't mind"
Thought she'd never quite understand so I
Left her there that night but will she
Find me?
Ever so sorry....
Sorry!
Posted: 18 Sep 2006, 20:38
by James Blast
how can I put this...
Next!