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Master and Servants

Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 08:51
by nick the stripper
So I was shown this youtube video and thought "what the hell is this guy on about? I've heard nought about this". Then I googled "torture bill" and got this: Senate Approves Detainee Bill Backed by Bush

Doesn't anyone else find it a little disturbing that this bill is being passed by quickly and with no notice, while that stupid "Foley controversy" gets front page headlines?

Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 09:45
by Planet Dave
Disturbing? Yep, but then that's how America's rulers have always conducted themselves (on the sly), so it's no surprise.

Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 09:55
by markfiend
Under this bill, non-US citizens designated enemy combatants are denied basic habeas corpus rights.

But if you are a US citizen, or not an enemy combatant, without habeas corpus, how are you going to mount a legal challenge to your custody?

This law grants GWB the power to lock up who he likes, for as long as he likes, with no appeal to any courts. Can we spell "dictatorship" boys and girls?

Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 10:02
by RicheyJames
yep. i can spell "internment" too...

Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 10:13
by markfiend
RicheyJames wrote:yep. i can spell "internment" too...
Fair point.

Still don't make it right.

Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 10:20
by Badlander
markfiend wrote: This law grants GWB the power to lock up who he likes, for as long as he likes, with no appeal to any courts. Can we spell "dictatorship" boys and girls?
The good thing is that this new piece of legislation will probably be deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme court at some point. The bad thing is it will take some time and more than a handful of people can be unjustly imprisoned in the meantime. :urff:

Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 14:33
by eotunun
I instantly thought of the enabling act when reading this. Okay, I may be over sensitive here. But that´s the stench I smell from what´s going on.
Spell dictatorship. Spell what you like. But isn´t it apalling where some societies are drifting today? Belarus for example, Russia..
Fear works.

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 05:10
by weebleswobble
It'd never happen in Canada

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 06:10
by boudicca
Definitely the chap to go spreading civilization. If I wasn't sure before, I am now!