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Vision Thing - The Raw And The Cooked

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 12:42
by Norman Hunter
At the risk of possibly going over old ground, which songs on VT would you consider the "rough" mixes, as per Von's comments at the time..?

Feel free to point me in the direction of a previous post if applicable :oops:

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 12:59
by czuczu
Dunno!

Detonation Blvd & When You Don't See Me?
Dr Jeep doesn't sound 'finished' either..

???

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 15:05
by dinky daisy
Dr Jeep, it has a pumping theme but not pumping enough. The beat hasn't a BANG BANG but a bang bang bang bang

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 16:27
by paint it black
on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 16:28
by Dark
When You Don't See Me.. I'd say the LP version is a rough mix and the "Remix" is the final version.

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 16:28
by Norman Hunter
For me, Ribbons, Something Fast, When You Don't See Me and I Was Wrong.

But what do I know..? :lol:

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 17:38
by mh
My vote goes to Det Blvd, WYDSM and Dr Jeep. I agree on the WYDSM "remix" theory, it sounds pretty plausible. The rest of the songs sound too "finished" to me.

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 18:19
by scotty
Need I contribute?

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 18:52
by Big Si
You Could Be The One - it must have been done in one take.......Groovy :D

Re: Vision Thing - The Raw And The Cooked

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 19:29
by flakk13
Norman Hunter wrote:At the risk of possibly going over old ground, which songs on VT would you consider the "rough" mixes, as per Von's comments at the time..?

Feel free to point me in the direction of a previous post if applicable :oops:
the rare - Vision Thing, Detonation Boulevard, When You Don't See Me, Doctor Jeep
the well done - Ribbons, Something Fast, More, I Was Wrong

Posted: 12 Oct 2006, 23:48
by bismarck
paint it black wrote:on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes


Ah, PiB... Cheeky as ever and no one even cares... A sad day indeed when no one bites at THAT bait.

Posted: 13 Oct 2006, 02:08
by Planet Dave
bismarck wrote:
paint it black wrote:on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes


Ah, PiB... Cheeky as ever and no one even cares... A sad day indeed when no one bites at THAT bait.
Indeed, but almost certainly true. I'm sure the 'rough mixes' are simply tracks that are quite finished but missing the 3 months worth of overdubs. So we can count 'More' out.

It doesn't matter whether Ribbons is raw or cooked, it's still the most astonishing 3-odd minutes of music ever committed to vinyl.

Posted: 13 Oct 2006, 08:30
by deadagain
bismarck wrote:
paint it black wrote:on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes


Ah, PiB... Cheeky as ever and no one even cares... A sad day indeed when no one bites at THAT bait.
okay, may I? :roll:

So what are these TC demos you have then PiB? would you like to share them with us over in the weeding forum or are cryptic comments alone the order of the day?!

Posted: 13 Oct 2006, 12:55
by mh
bismarck wrote:
paint it black wrote:on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes


Ah, PiB... Cheeky as ever and no one even cares... A sad day indeed when no one bites at THAT bait.
What's the point any more? This is a long running story with the same end result every time.

Not that it's PiB's fault that things are this way, mind.

They're probably crap anyway.

Posted: 13 Oct 2006, 13:02
by paint it black
bismarck wrote:
paint it black wrote:on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes


Ah, PiB... Cheeky as ever and no one even cares... A sad day indeed when no one bites at THAT bait.
you got me AGAIN!!!

I can't even raise a titter with my 1981 silver machine and emma demos'. tis a fact, nobody cares :(


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... n_a_source

don't it make you proud :twisted:

Posted: 13 Oct 2006, 13:04
by paint it black
deadagain wrote:
bismarck wrote:
paint it black wrote:on the demos i have there is hardly any discernable difference, not like say, the this corrosion ones which stand out a mile as rough mixes


Ah, PiB... Cheeky as ever and no one even cares... A sad day indeed when no one bites at THAT bait.
okay, may I? :roll:

So what are these TC demos you have then PiB? would you like to share them with us over in the weeding forum or are cryptic comments alone the order of the day?!
as bismark so rightly pointed out, they don't exist...not even the belgian has the right version...it's all a myth. :roll:

Posted: 13 Oct 2006, 13:10
by markfiend
paint it black wrote:...it's all a myth. :roll:
Or a joke that way too many people have taken seriously.

Posted: 13 Oct 2006, 13:22
by paint it black
markfiend wrote:
paint it black wrote:...it's all a myth. :roll:
Or a joke that way too many people have taken seriously.
good point. well made :notworthy: :notworthy:

Posted: 13 Oct 2006, 13:32
by Planet Dave
Are you telling me you don't have all this stuff Ez? Well, you shower of sh*te! :lol:

Posted: 13 Oct 2006, 13:47
by paint it black
Planet Dave wrote:Are you telling me you don't have all this stuff Ez? Well, you shower of sh*te! :lol:
that's about the strength of it. sold/gave away most of the collection ealier this year to fund my model railway...and very nice it is too.

some lucky goth kid just down the road has some of the rarest sisters stuff around and he probably doesn't even know it :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 08:21
by deadagain
paint it black wrote:
markfiend wrote:
paint it black wrote:...it's all a myth. :roll:
Or a joke that way too many people have taken seriously.
good point. well made :notworthy: :notworthy:


Does that include the fabled James Ray vocal versions?

Does anyone have a good clean & complete copy of the This Corrosion US college radio version? The only one I have heard is cut.

Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 13:01
by Norman Hunter
Planet Dave wrote:It doesn't matter whether Ribbons is raw or cooked, it's still the most astonishing 3-odd minutes of music ever committed to vinyl.
You know, besides the obvious Football Thing, we share a lot in common, my friend :eek:

Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 17:16
by Dark
deadagain wrote:
paint it black wrote:
markfiend wrote:Or a joke that way too many people have taken seriously.
good point. well made :notworthy: :notworthy:


Does that include the fabled James Ray vocal versions?
Only Eric himself has a copy of that, as far as we know.

Though it's probably better than the final version. :lol: ;D

Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 17:27
by aims
Serious question:

Do you call Mr Marx "Mark"?

:roll:

Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 17:35
by bismarck
The "James Ray Corrosion Demo" is a myth. After 20 years, it's not surfaced anywhere... it simply does not exist.