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Madonna and child

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 01:08
by boudicca
So, what think you of Madge's new wean then?

Personally, I find it deeply disturbing. Why can she not give money to the little boy's living relatives, or wider community, so that he can be raised with them? Instead of bringing the poor little thing into a world of paparazzi and Hello magazine spreads?

I don't have anything huge against people adopting from other countries per se, but IMO this is deeply, deeply selfish and thoughtless, bordering on cruel.

Discuss.

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 01:14
by weebleswobble
I agree, poor daddy (allegedly) is broken hearted and a wee bit confused. I was nearly crying when I read an interview with him.

The whole thing is complete sh8t look at the press attention now, it will never stop.

She could have given a shedload to the wee boy/family/village/country. If she wants to adopt go through due process, it all seems like a f**king fashion accessory with these celebs :innocent:

I hope the wee boy will be happy, that is the main thing regardless. But if he were mine and this had happened, I'd be broken hearted forever :cry:

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 01:19
by boudicca
Rather scarily, I saw dad saying he didn't really know who Madonna was.

f**k's sake, why hasn't someone TOLD him!?

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 01:27
by weebleswobble
boudicca wrote:Rather scarily, I saw dad saying he didn't really know who Madonna was.

f**k's sake, why hasn't someone TOLD him!?
Maybe he's just into industrial music :innocent:

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 01:32
by Thea
*nod* Very scary stuff.
Apparently she said "We wanted to help one child have a better life" (Or words to that effect...) and... what? The rest of the kids arn't good enough? The adults don't deserve a better life too?
If this was anything other than a sick stunt, I'm sure she could have had the kid brought to her *without* publicity.

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 02:03
by boudicca
Another concern is the fact she has two kids who are a) genetically her own, and b) look like her kids, they are the same race.

Please don't get me wrong, in theory there is absolutely nothing wrong with someone adopting a child of another race, but the reality is that her own children will notice the difference and question it... they may pick on the adoptive child because he's so outwardly different.

Kids can be wonderfully accepting and blind to race, but they can also be horrendously intolerant and cruel, ganging up on another kid based on their differences. That could be hard enough for this child at school, but within his own family, I don't know how Madge can ensure her older kids will not take the attitude of "Everyone knows she's not really YOUR mum".

And it also begs the question - WHY did she need to adopt if she has kids of her own? I'd ask that of anyone who did this - the main concern being for the "outsider" child. It seems to me she wants to feel, as avery rich and famous woman, that she's "putting something back", doing something good.

In essence, bringing that kid into the melee that is her life to appease her conscience for being so priviledged.

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 02:10
by weebleswobble
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Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 02:57
by 9while9
weebleswobble wrote:Image
Where the HELL
do you go shopping for pictures Weebles? :eek:

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 03:25
by weebleswobble
9while9 wrote:
weebleswobble wrote:Image
Where the HELL
do you go shopping for pictures Weebles? :eek:
the weebleswobbleworldofwonder
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Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 06:20
by DeWinter
If poor daddy was so heartbroken, he could I presume, have said no. It's no different than those UK mothers who go shopping for orphans in Romania, Bulgaria etc when there are plenty of British children in need of a home.
I really cant take seriously any arguement that a child will regret being raised in a multi-millionairess' vast mansion occupying about a quarter of Hampshire and given the best of everything and an assured future than most likely dying at around fourty in Malawi.

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 06:54
by weebleswobble
DeWinter wrote:If poor daddy was so heartbroken, he could I presume, have said no. It's no different than those UK mothers who go shopping for orphans in Romania, Bulgaria etc when there are plenty of British children in need of a home.
I really cant take seriously any arguement that a child will regret being raised in a multi-millionairess' vast mansion occupying about a quarter of Hampshire and given the best of everything and an assured future than most likely dying at around fourty in Malawi.
The man's wife and two other young children had died of malaria. He signed over his child to the childrens home fearing he would die without the proper care.
He still managed to visit the wee lad even though he had to travel miles to do so (parents tend to do things like that)
I'd love to have a go at your second point but I'm off home now to cuddle my own waens-suffice to say I don't agree with your take on it :twisted:

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 07:26
by DeWinter
Life in a Malawi orphanage is unlikely to be much of a giggle. Given the choice between that and Madonna, you'd have to be insane to choose life in Malawi. She's given a child a way out of what would most likely be painfully short and miserable future. I tend to look at that rather than the other issues. :|

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 08:56
by nick the stripper
I blame Islam. :innocent:

</trolling>

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 09:08
by weebleswobble
nick the stripper wrote:I blame Islam. :innocent:

</trolling>
Surely you mean Canada? :eek:

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 09:35
by Thea
weebleswobble wrote:
nick the stripper wrote:I blame Islam. :innocent:

</trolling>
Surely you mean Canada? :eek:
Or those damned dirty goffiks?

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 10:26
by markfiend
Rich pop star does something daft costing lots of money.

In other news:
Statement from Pope: "still a Catholic".
Bear defaecates in arboreal setting.

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 11:12
by a.r.kane
boudicca wrote:Another concern is the fact she has two kids who are a) genetically her own, and b) look like her kids, they are the same race.

Please don't get me wrong, in theory there is absolutely nothing wrong with someone adopting a child of another race, but the reality is that her own children will notice the difference and question it... they may pick on the adoptive child because he's so outwardly different.

Kids can be wonderfully accepting and blind to race, but they can also be horrendously intolerant and cruel, ganging up on another kid based on their differences. That could be hard enough for this child at school, but within his own family, I don't know how Madge can ensure her older kids will not take the attitude of "Everyone knows she's not really YOUR mum".

And it also begs the question - WHY did she need to adopt if she has kids of her own? I'd ask that of anyone who did this - the main concern being for the "outsider" child. It seems to me she wants to feel, as avery rich and famous woman, that she's "putting something back", doing something good.

In essence, bringing that kid into the melee that is her life to appease her conscience for being so priviledged.
Jesus Christ! The inane and backwater attitude of this posting leaves me devoid of any hope for the future of humanity.

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 11:53
by canon docre
that little girl from her fitness trainer hasnt got the same skin colour as her son from the director chap either. I honestly think we don't have to worry much about racial intolerance within the Richie-Family.

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 12:18
by markfiend
boudicca wrote:I don't know how Madge can ensure her older kids will not take the attitude of "Everyone knows she's not really YOUR mum".
The racism issue aside, this is definitely an issue in some families with both adopted and biologically "natural" children.

On the other hand, how well-adjusted their children turn out largely comes down to Madonna and Guy Ritchie's skills as parents; I'm unwilling to judge these skills based on sensationalist press reporting.

Re: Madonna and child

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 12:29
by scotty
boudicca wrote: Why can she not give money to the little boy's living relatives, or wider community, so that he can be raised with them? Instead of bringing the poor little thing into a world of paparazzi and Hello magazine spreads?
1/Publicity

2/Money

3/Ego.

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 14:51
by the-happening
DeWinter wrote: I really cant take seriously any arguement that a child will regret being raised in a multi-millionairess' vast mansion occupying about a quarter of Hampshire and given the best of everything and an assured future than most likely dying at around fourty in Malawi.
Please don't tarnish my wonderful county the sad old moo bought grazing land in Wiltshire, a place called Ashcombe House.

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 15:02
by Badlander
a.r.kane wrote:
boudicca wrote:Another concern is the fact she has two kids who are a) genetically her own, and b) look like her kids, they are the same race.

Please don't get me wrong, in theory there is absolutely nothing wrong with someone adopting a child of another race, but the reality is that her own children will notice the difference and question it... they may pick on the adoptive child because he's so outwardly different.

Kids can be wonderfully accepting and blind to race, but they can also be horrendously intolerant and cruel, ganging up on another kid based on their differences. That could be hard enough for this child at school, but within his own family, I don't know how Madge can ensure her older kids will not take the attitude of "Everyone knows she's not really YOUR mum".

And it also begs the question - WHY did she need to adopt if she has kids of her own? I'd ask that of anyone who did this - the main concern being for the "outsider" child. It seems to me she wants to feel, as avery rich and famous woman, that she's "putting something back", doing something good.

In essence, bringing that kid into the melee that is her life to appease her conscience for being so priviledged.
Jesus Christ! The inane and backwater attitude of this posting leaves me devoid of any hope for the future of humanity.
At least you could pretend not to be a troll. :roll:

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 17:21
by Obviousman
I don't get it, others have to wait half their lives to get a chance at adopting a child, without even having a chance of seeing it before it lands on your local airport, and she just picks a random kid and takes it home the next week.

Quite outrageous indeed, I'd say! No good for her, no good for the kid. Wonder what they'll do when the two years term has come to an end...

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 17:23
by 9while9
a.r.kane wrote:
boudicca wrote:Another concern is the fact she has two kids who are a) genetically her own, and b) look like her kids, they are the same race.

Please don't get me wrong, in theory there is absolutely nothing wrong with someone adopting a child of another race, but the reality is that her own children will notice the difference and question it... they may pick on the adoptive child because he's so outwardly different.

Kids can be wonderfully accepting and blind to race, but they can also be horrendously intolerant and cruel, ganging up on another kid based on their differences. That could be hard enough for this child at school, but within his own family, I don't know how Madge can ensure her older kids will not take the attitude of "Everyone knows she's not really YOUR mum".

And it also begs the question - WHY did she need to adopt if she has kids of her own? I'd ask that of anyone who did this - the main concern being for the "outsider" child. It seems to me she wants to feel, as avery rich and famous woman, that she's "putting something back", doing something good.

In essence, bringing that kid into the melee that is her life to appease her conscience for being so priviledged.
Jesus Christ! The inane and backwater attitude of this posting leaves me devoid of any hope for the future of humanity.
Shouldn't that be "Allah be Damned" ? :?: :?

Posted: 18 Oct 2006, 18:24
by smiscandlon
9while9 wrote:Shouldn't that be "Allah be Damned" ? :?: :?
I imagine there'd be a terrible kerfuffle if us westerners started using "Allah!" as an exclamation or mild expletive...