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FALAA Reissue - Comments and Thoughts

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 15:31
by mh
At Petseri's suggestion. :notworthy:

Got it yesterday, and have now listened a few times. Before I start on that, a few words about the overall presentation.

It's very very nice. The original artwork has been restored (just a difference in the lettering colour and a slighly different Black October logo, but it matters, dammit) which is a very good first impression. It'ss stylish, with all of the original photos (and a few new ones) included. Also some copies of Von's handwritten lyrics and recording studio documents, in nice grey and black. It's nice to look at and nice to own.

"Logic" is no more - it's now called "Amphetamine Logic" on the back cover. :notworthy:

The disc continues on the minimalist and stylish theme, being matt black with just the title and an MR logo in grey, and very little else.

The booklet is nice too, containing a history of the band up to this point written by Michael Bonner of Uncut magazine. The dreaded G word is only mentioned twice. Seems reasonably accurate. Von will probably hate it.

These reissues easily have the best presentation of any Sisters release ever. Which bodes well for the music within.

And which is an awful shame, as the "remastering" is not well done on this one. Volume levels and channel balance wildly vary. The vinyl is still far superiour if you have a decent TT.

Yes, they are - for the most part - the original mixes. NTTC is the same one that you'll know from Overbombing if you don't have the 12". FALAA has the reverse drum intro. It's a small quibble, but Marian has it's intro "ping" in both channels, not in the left only (as it should be).

The bonus track B sides are nice to have on CD at long last, although a double set including the Body & Soul 12" and some more demos/outtakes would have been preferable. Maybe with the 2 compilations deleted we'll get a box set?

If you're new to the Sisters this is the version to get, no question; despite the problems it's still better than the remixes. If you don't have the B sides (or don't have a TT) you'll want it for them - they're decent tunes.

Which brings me to the reason us old-timers will really want it - the Stranger demo. It's obviously a demo in terms of sound quality, though still reasonably clear. Some extra lyrics in the first few lines (it starts with "In England in the morning I haven't slept for days" - continuing the lack of sleep theme from other songs) and most of the first few verses ommitted. Von sounds VERY emotional on this one - could it be the famous version with him crying on it? I dunno.

Overall, if I wasn't a completist and was short on the funds, and wasn't too concerned about supporting the band either, I probably wouldn't have bought this. I seriously expected better quality in the remastering, and I don't see it replacing my vinyls in a hurry. Oh well. :evil: :cry: :x :| :(

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 15:39
by bismarck
Besides the title track, can anyone tell me which songs on the old FALAA CD were mixed differently (and how) from the original US/UK vinyl release? Another way to put the same question: Which of the "Japanese vinyl mixes" were substantially different from the original "UK vinyl mixes," and how? And last: Does the new remastered version really restore the original UK vinyl mixes?

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 16:07
by lachert
mh, thanks for review :notworthy:

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 16:10
by Nic
Cheers mh, been waiting for this topic! :D :notworthy:

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 16:36
by itnAklipse
Aaa...i hope mine arrives soon, i simply can't wait to hear that version of SKOS!

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 21:21
by James Blast
I hope someone will do a Floodland review soon, if I did it I'd just bang on about Never Land (full length) for two pages. ;D

Nice work Michael Image

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 21:24
by scotty
I bet it's not as good as the unremastered version the I got from Brar Pat :notworthy: 8) :notworthy:

Posted: 29 Oct 2006, 10:12
by randdebiel²
bismarck wrote:Besides the title track, can anyone tell me which songs on the old FALAA CD were mixed differently (and how) from the original US/UK vinyl release? Another way to put the same question: Which of the "Japanese vinyl mixes" were substantially different from the original "UK vinyl mixes," and how? And last: Does the new remastered version really restore the original UK vinyl mixes?
it's been a while, but definitely a rock and a hard place....

Posted: 29 Oct 2006, 15:54
by lachert
oh.. :roll:
if any good people decide to share these bonus tracks from falaa and floodland it will be great.
i know this is official stuff and so on... i will buy it anyhow but it will take some time and some mp3 will be warmly welcome at the time... ;D
if somebody understand my problem, please pm :D
your ever well wisher
lachert

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 08:41
by Ozpat
Thanks for the nice review! :D

The "remastering" is not well done? :evil: Bloody shame....

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 13:31
by robertzombie
Just bought all three.

I'm listening to SKOS (Early) atm, Von's voice sounds... awful :lol:

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 14:44
by the-happening
robertzombie wrote:Just bought all three.

I'm listening to SKOS (Early) atm, Von's voice sounds... awful :lol:
Well Von must be chuffed that this has been aired aired publicly! I do like Poison Door and Blood Money however is it me or are the levels a lot lower for the album than the bonus tracks?

Overall an OK effort with these and the theme for Robin Hood we are being spoilt!

Re: FALAA Reissue - Comments and Thoughts

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 15:25
by spot778
mh wrote:
"Logic" is no more - it's now called "Amphetamine Logic" on the back cover. :notworthy:
FINALLY !!!!

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 19:59
by James Blast
There's a typo on the spine, just like VISIOIN THING, this time it's FIRST ANDLAST AND ALWAYS... :cry:

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 20:09
by Syberberg
James Blast wrote:There's a typo on the spine, just like VISIOIN THING, this time it's FIRST ANDLAST AND ALWAYS... :cry:
It just gets worse and worse. :cry: :cry:

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 20:19
by Ozpat
James Blast wrote:There's a typo on the spine, just like VISIOIN THING, this time it's FIRST ANDLAST AND ALWAYS... :cry:
What a bunch of wankers.... :evil:

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 20:25
by robertzombie
I don't think mine does

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 20:26
by James Blast
does that mean we must no refer to this version as FAAA? :lol:

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 20:41
by Ozpat
James Blast wrote:There's a typo on the spine, just like VISIOIN THING, this time it's FIRST ANDLAST AND ALWAYS... :cry:
At first sight I thought you wrote FIRST ANDBLAST AND ALWAYS

:lol:

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 20:45
by James Blast
Ozpat wrote:
James Blast wrote:There's a typo on the spine, just like VISIOIN THING, this time it's FIRST ANDLAST AND ALWAYS... :cry:
At first sight I thought you wrote FIRST ANDBLAST AND ALWAYS

:lol:
Now that woulda freaked me! Image
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 21:09
by mh
the-happening wrote:is it me or are the levels a lot lower for the album than the bonus tracks?
No, it's not just you. There's a very substantial difference. :(

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 21:24
by robertzombie
robertzombie wrote:I don't think mine does
I was wrong, lol

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 21:36
by James Blast
robertzombie wrote:
robertzombie wrote:I don't think mine does
I was wrong, lol
Thank Feck! I know my eyesight's not great, so I checked it 3 times before I posted, then twice after. :lol:

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 22:04
by mh
randdebiel² wrote:
bismarck wrote:Besides the title track, can anyone tell me which songs on the old FALAA CD were mixed differently (and how) from the original US/UK vinyl release? Another way to put the same question: Which of the "Japanese vinyl mixes" were substantially different from the original "UK vinyl mixes," and how? And last: Does the new remastered version really restore the original UK vinyl mixes?
it's been a while, but definitely a rock and a hard place....
The main ones were:

Black Planet: some slight differences in balance of the various bits (can't really remember)

NTTC: Different intro and outro

Rock & a Hard Place: Some different instrumentation

FALAA: Completely different mix

Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 22:15
by robertzombie
Where can we hear these "Japanese remixes"?