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Neverland 11 minute + Version
Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 22:46
by Silver_Owl
Anybody?
Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 22:57
by Big Si
And will the earth break your fall
And the hurt break your will
And the heartbreak be over
It will
We are coming down, we fall
Hand in hand in hand in hand
We are coming down but we will
Never never land
I had a face on the mirror etc...
We are coming down, we fall
Hand in hand in hand in hand
We are coming down but we will
Never never land
With our backs to the sky
And our eyes to the ground
With the clouds far below
No horizon around
With the wind in our face
And our arms open wide
We will pass through this place
To the other side
All the days of our lives
All the ways of our calling
Fall
I had a face on the mirror etc...
http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic. ... &start=475 
Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 23:01
by Silver_Owl
Thanks Si
Singing along now.
Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 23:17
by mh
Andrew Eldritch wrote:I had this vision. You know in the summer if you lay on the grass and stare at the sky, you can almost see beyond the stars, but cannot quite get a grip on what's there? Well, sometimes it's very difficult to work out exactly what it is that keeps you pressed between the earth and the sky and why you don't whoosh off into oblivion. Neverland is coming about this the other way: the entire population of the earth starting to travel from some indefinable point in space toward the earth at increasing speed. It would take an eternity to reach the earth - by which time you'd be reasonably spiritualised - and even when you reached the destination, you wouldn't actually hit the ground. You'd be going so fast you'd just go through and out the other side, where there is another eternity of nothingness. I just tried to write a song about these impressions.
Posted: 30 Oct 2006, 23:25
by Silver_Owl
Posted: 31 Oct 2006, 02:24
by eotunun
mh wrote:Andrew Eldritch wrote:I had this vision. You know in the summer if you lay on the grass and stare at the sky, you can almost see beyond the stars, but cannot quite get a grip on what's there? Well, sometimes it's very difficult to work out exactly what it is that keeps you pressed between the earth and the sky and why you don't whoosh off into oblivion. Neverland is coming about this the other way: the entire population of the earth starting to travel from some indefinable point in space toward the earth at increasing speed. It would take an eternity to reach the earth - by which time you'd be reasonably spiritualised - and even when you reached the destination, you wouldn't actually hit the ground. You'd be going so fast you'd just go through and out the other side, where there is another eternity of nothingness. I just tried to write a song about these impressions.
And
on the homepage Andrew wrote:It's called 'Never Land (a fragment)' to reflect the way the song sounds: overheard and fondly detached. It's really not got so much to do with the (literal) fragmentation and moral issues of Goethe's Faust ...honest.
...honest. Sure
(literal) fragmentation: Obvious. The state of the narrator after the impact.
Faust: I never read it, but at german Wikipedia one of the first lines says:
So schreitet in dem engen Bretterhaus den ganzen Kreis der Schöpfung aus, und wandelt mit bedächtger Schnelle vom Himmel durch die Welt zur Hölle!
A line from the prologue of the stage version.
"So walk through the entire circle of creation in in this narrow house of boards, and wander with thoughtfull step from heaven through the world to hell!"
Now read the interview again.
More
here
I´m absolutely not sure what to make of it though.
Edit: All I am sure about now, after reading through a pile of pages on Faust (initial version), Faust (
A FRAGMENT), Faust part one and Faust part two is that my initial ideas on the lyrics were a lorry`s load of bulls. Thank god I deleted that in time..
Faust and the reborn
Helen have a son, Euphorion, who falls to death when flying around in high spirits..
Posted: 31 Oct 2006, 07:41
by Ozpat
Nice thread! Interesting stuff! Thank you all!
Posted: 31 Oct 2006, 08:25
by Dark
I think his interview comments answer the questions fairly well:
It's about flying through space.
Posted: 02 Nov 2006, 22:09
by 6FeetOver
Christ, that's just gorgeous. Thanks, Si!
Posted: 03 Nov 2006, 12:37
by itnAklipse
Goodness gracious.
Stunning.
Posted: 04 Nov 2006, 18:08
by James Blast
mh was the first to print them
Sinny, credit where credit's due
Posted: 04 Nov 2006, 18:13
by Big Si
James Blast wrote:mh was the first to print them
Sinny, credit where credit's due
Aye, thanks for the thanks, but it weren't me
Posted: 05 Nov 2006, 21:13
by mh
But full marks also to
The Big Man for being on the ball with this.
Posted: 05 Nov 2006, 22:31
by James Blast
Posted: 06 Nov 2006, 20:43
by eotunun
*pat!*
Posted: 06 Nov 2006, 20:50
by James Blast
... just finished listening to it,
oops, time to put it back on...
Posted: 07 Nov 2006, 12:12
by nick the stripper
I really want to hear this song, but I don't want to fork out all that money considering I have all the other tracks.
Is it tinny like the demo on "Demos & Outtakes 1981 - 1986" or does it sound like the Floodland version?
Posted: 07 Nov 2006, 12:15
by Obviousman
Second option, it's really clear, doesn't have a demo-feel to it at all!
Posted: 08 Nov 2006, 10:39
by robertzombie
nick the stripper wrote:I really want to hear this song, but I don't want to fork out all that money considering I have all the other tracks.
Is it tinny like the demo on "Demos & Outtakes 1981 - 1986" or does it sound like the Floodland version?
It's on Amazon for a fiver
Posted: 08 Nov 2006, 21:44
by nick the stripper
robertzombie wrote:nick the stripper wrote:I really want to hear this song, but I don't want to fork out all that money considering I have all the other tracks.
Is it tinny like the demo on "Demos & Outtakes 1981 - 1986" or does it sound like the Floodland version?
It's on Amazon for a fiver
You're joking, right?
I'm definitely ordering them at that price.
Posted: 08 Nov 2006, 23:09
by James Blast
nick the stripper wrote:I'm definitely ordering them at that price.
I will hold you to that one, especially where Floodland is concerned
Posted: 09 Nov 2006, 14:31
by robertzombie
nick the stripper wrote:robertzombie wrote:nick the stripper wrote:I really want to hear this song, but I don't want to fork out all that money considering I have all the other tracks.
Is it tinny like the demo on "Demos & Outtakes 1981 - 1986" or does it sound like the Floodland version?
It's on Amazon for a fiver
You're joking, right?
I'm definitely ordering them at that price.
YOU'D BE MAD NOT TO
Posted: 15 Nov 2006, 03:29
by nick the stripper
Can anyone else hear Von breathing heavily and in beat with the drum or am I going insane? It's barely audible, but I'm sure I can hear it.
Posted: 23 Dec 2006, 05:35
by nowayjose
mh wrote:Andrew Eldritch wrote:I had this vision. You know in the summer if you lay on the grass and stare at the sky, you can almost see beyond the stars, but cannot quite get a grip on what's there? Well, sometimes it's very difficult to work out exactly what it is that keeps you pressed between the earth and the sky and why you don't whoosh off into oblivion. Neverland is coming about this the other way: the entire population of the earth starting to travel from some indefinable point in space toward the earth at increasing speed. It would take an eternity to reach the earth - by which time you'd be reasonably spiritualised - and even when you reached the destination, you wouldn't actually hit the ground. You'd be going so fast you'd just go through and out the other side, where there is another eternity of nothingness. I just tried to write a song about these impressions.
Well. Whatever he says. I've had the impression that the track is about a somewhat more banal experience -- like, if you've made a final decision, and the ground is fast approaching, and time is starting to stretch. You probably won't notice the landing.
Would be a good reason, too, not to include the whole text in the recorded version. Unless you wanted to make a point in a very cheap g*th kinda way.
Posted: 23 Dec 2006, 10:19
by eastmidswhizzkid
Andrew Eldritch wrote:I had this vision. You know in the summer if you lay on the grass and stare at the sky, you can almost see beyond the stars, but cannot quite get a grip on what's there? Well, sometimes it's very difficult to work out exactly what it is that keeps you pressed between the earth and the sky and why you don't whoosh off into oblivion. Neverland is coming about this the other way: the entire population of the earth starting to travel from some indefinable point in space toward the earth at increasing speed. It would take an eternity to reach the earth - by which time you'd be reasonably spiritualised - and even when you reached the destination, you wouldn't actually hit the ground. You'd be going so fast you'd just go through and out the other side, where there is another eternity of nothingness. I just tried to write a song about these impressions.
so another one fuelled by
persian rugs and a large brain.
actually, as he desribes it it sounds exactly like the first time i smoked that salvia divinorum concentrate.
