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Marian Cover
Posted: 01 Jan 2007, 21:45
by cultureofgreed
I am a long time lurker and first time poster. I did a cover of Marian and thought I would let you guys hear it. If you hate it I can understand, the Sisters are pretty sacred territory for alot of people. But, I hope you guys like it.
Oh, and forgive my hackeyed german.
Marian
Posted: 01 Jan 2007, 22:19
by more-sedatives-pls
not bad at all, dear sir, and welcome to HL !!
The continuous zumm-zumm-zumm-zumm (and zumm till eternity) synths are kinda dull though - I'd prefer a version that's somewhat further from the original myself, but as I'm no musician who am I to comment, right?
Posted: 02 Jan 2007, 00:36
by eotunun
Not bad!
A bit overgoffed though.
Posted: 02 Jan 2007, 01:08
by weebleswobble
No bad big man
Posted: 02 Jan 2007, 01:10
by Rafster
didn't like it myself, too gothy for me.
but good luck in the future!
Posted: 02 Jan 2007, 12:27
by Spigel
Nice job.
Your German sounds just fine to me
Welcome
Posted: 02 Jan 2007, 14:12
by biggy
Your other songs sound like Erasure.
Posted: 02 Jan 2007, 16:47
by Izzy HaveMercy
Not bad at all!
But I'd dub the guitars and compress them a little bit (not too much!) to give them more punch. My Belgian Accomplice ARF can comment more on geetars
And you German ain't that bad, only sometimes I can hear the vocal line is just a wee bit too low for your voice
And I would try muting a part sometimes, to keep the sound open. Mute the 'zinzing' sometimes, then let it re-appear, play with volumes to open up the mix.
And I cannot download it
Fix that!
IZ.
Posted: 02 Jan 2007, 17:46
by cultureofgreed
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:Not bad at all!
But I'd dub the guitars and compress them a little bit (not too much!) to give them more punch. My Belgian Accomplice ARF can comment more on geetars
And you German ain't that bad, only sometimes I can hear the vocal line is just a wee bit too low for your voice
And I would try muting a part sometimes, to keep the sound open. Mute the 'zinzing' sometimes, then let it re-appear, play with volumes to open up the mix.
And I cannot download it
Fix that!
IZ.
Oh...those are some nice suggestions. But, it is just a cover and I feel guilty putting too much energy into it. But I am going to have to do another mix of it anyways because of the way it sounds though a large system and a local club here in Tampa likes it enough to play it fairly often.
I will take this to heart and thanks for the constructive criticism.
Re: Marian Cover
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 00:41
by digipuppy
cultureofgreed wrote:I am a long time lurker and first time poster. I did a cover of Marian and thought I would let you guys hear it. If you hate it I can understand, the Sisters are pretty sacred territory for alot of people. But, I hope you guys like it.
Oh, and forgive my hackeyed german.
Marian
Dude, I don't mean to insult you, but making this song heavy is not working for me.
I dont' like the heavy synths put to this subject matter. Maybe heavy synths to something more war like.
Re: Marian Cover
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 00:43
by digipuppy
digipuppy wrote:cultureofgreed wrote:I am a long time lurker and first time poster. I did a cover of Marian and thought I would let you guys hear it. If you hate it I can understand, the Sisters are pretty sacred territory for alot of people. But, I hope you guys like it.
Oh, and forgive my hackeyed german.
Marian
Synth too much. You need a stronger singer to do heavy synth music like a huge opera singer like Rammstein Male or Female.
It can't be a delicate voice though. Delicate voices are for lyrical content. The sound you are displaying needs a heavy metal edge/rocker/operetic huge sound. Someone that can kick ass on stage and get in people's faces.
I don't like this sound with that subject matter in the lyrics. With these lyrics I prefer something more ballad like.
With this sound you need someone that can handle that loud hard sound. Not a sweet angelic voice but rather a huge strong dramatic voice with a metal/opera edge. Someone not afraid to get up into someones face and kick there ass. A dominate sounding voice, not a pussy sweet voice.
This is the kind of vocals you need for the heavy synths.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 01:52
by Purple Light
Enjoyed the listen.
Gonna agree & disagree with two posts so far...
Agree : Synths. Bit too much.
Disagree : Guitars. Heavier the better for me! Carbon copy covers bore me, at least you try something different guitar wise. Almost got a Rammstein feel to it.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 02:17
by 8.5
The vocals aren't bad, which is odd for a sister's cover
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 10:49
by Ahráyeph
I'd recommend something like the PSP MixSaturator for fattening up the guitars. It simulates tape compression fairly well. If you're using Cubase, you can also use the on board Magneto VST plugin to that end, but the PSP sounds better to my ears (Magneto works best when ironing out cymbals (pun intended); a trick I learned at Spacelab last year). The PSP's 'Hot Tape 3' preset should give you a good result right out of the box...
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 12:09
by more-sedatives-pls
Ahráyeph wrote:I'd recommend .... fattening up the guitars.
No, really ??
I'd never have guessed you'd recommend THAT
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 12:28
by Ahráyeph
more-sedatives-pls wrote:Ahráyeph wrote:I'd recommend .... fattening up the guitars.
No, really ??
I'd never have guessed you'd recommend THAT
I know; it's quite out of character for me, what with my excessive love for strange synth noises 'n all...
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 14:33
by mh
Love the heavier sound, but the vocals don't do it for me at all.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 16:48
by Karst
Get the Leeds 2003 version of the song for a bit of inspiration I'd say.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 17:34
by Ozpat
Too much of everything....very annoying actually.
Welcome to HL anyway.....
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 23:44
by digipuppy
mh wrote:Love the heavier sound, but the vocals don't do it for me at all.
Yes you need an opera singer like in Rammstein. A huge strong voice to stand up to the heavy sound you are trying to create.
Yet I'm not crazy about this song being too heavy.
Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 00:19
by Badass
I quite liked the song. Sounds a bit familiar - i'm not sure but i think the Sisters have played it sometimes back in the eighties...
Good job man.
Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 00:26
by Dead_Rock
Well, indeed a gothed up version. Enjoyed it actually and only have to say: Don't try to imitate AE's voice, find your own and make it your song (or smoke a pack a day and develop a heavy drug habit
)
Posted: 25 Jan 2007, 06:00
by Ghost
Heh, I actually enjoyed it, specially the more electronic parts on it. Reminds me of Razed in Black stuff.
As said above, try to backup a little on everything.
Posted: 25 Jan 2007, 19:21
by bushman*pm
Sir, a very good effort, sound reminds me of Rammstein/Front 242 but its not fair or my place to say
'Oh it sounds like this or that'
good on ya for having a go!
Posted: 25 Jan 2007, 20:05
by Dark
A lot going on.. the drum sound underneath the vocals needs lowering, and the vocals raising. The synths might need a little less high-end, or lowering a bit.
Aside from that, I do think it's a great cover.
And I do like the vocals.