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IGN Music's Top 25 Metal Albums

• 25. Scorpions - Lovedrive (Mercury Records, 1979)
  24. Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime (EMI, 1988)
  23. Sepultura - Roots (Roadrunner Records, 1996)
  22. Ozzy - Diary of a Madman (Jet Records, 1981)
  21. Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind (Capitol Records, 1983)
  20. Deep Purple - Machine Head (Warner Bros., 1972)
  19. Pantera - Cowboys from Hell (Atlantic Records, 1990)
  18. Opeth - Blackwater Park (Koch, 2001)
  17. Mastodon - Blood Mountain (Reprise Records, 2006)
  16. Motley Crue - Shout at the Devil (Elektra Records, 1983)
  15. Judas Priest - Screaming for Vengeance (Columbia Records, 1982)
  14. Fate's Warning - No Exit (Metal Blade, 1988)
  13. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath (Warner Bros., 1970)
  12. Anthrax - Among the Living (Megaforce, 1987)
  11. Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power (East/West, 1992)
  10. Motorhead - Ace of Spades (Castle Music, 1980)
  9. Metallica - ...And Justice for All (Elektra Records, 1988)
  8. Dio - Holy Diver (Reprise Records, 1983)
  7. Slayer - Reign in Blood (American Records, 1986)
  6. Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard of Ozz (Jet Records, 1980)
  5. Metallica - Ride the Lightning (Elektra Records, 1984)
  4. Megadeth - Rust in Peace (Capitol Records, 1990)
  3. Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast (Capitol Records, 1982)
  2. Black Sabbath - Paranoid (Warner Bros., 1971)
  1. Metallica - Master of Puppets (Elektra Records, 1986)

What, no Vision Thing?

weebleswobble wrote:Discuss (or not)

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IGN Music's Top 25 Metal Albums

• 25. Scorpions - Lovedrive (Mercury Records, 1979)
  24. Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime (EMI, 1988)
  23. Sepultura - Roots (Roadrunner Records, 1996)
  22. Ozzy - Diary of a Madman (Jet Records, 1981)
  21. Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind (Capitol Records, 1983)
  20. Deep Purple - Machine Head (Warner Bros., 1972)
  19. Pantera - Cowboys from Hell (Atlantic Records, 1990)
  18. Opeth - Blackwater Park (Koch, 2001)
  17. Mastodon - Blood Mountain (Reprise Records, 2006)
  16. Motley Crue - Shout at the Devil (Elektra Records, 1983)
  15. Judas Priest - Screaming for Vengeance (Columbia Records, 1982)
  14. Fate's Warning - No Exit (Metal Blade, 1988)
  13. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath (Warner Bros., 1970)
  12. Anthrax - Among the Living (Megaforce, 1987)
  11. Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power (East/West, 1992)
  10. Motorhead - Ace of Spades (Castle Music, 1980)
  9. Metallica - ...And Justice for All (Elektra Records, 1988)
  8. Dio - Holy Diver (Reprise Records, 1983)
  7. Slayer - Reign in Blood (American Records, 1986)
  6. Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard of Ozz (Jet Records, 1980)
  5. Metallica - Ride the Lightning (Elektra Records, 1984)
  4. Megadeth - Rust in Peace (Capitol Records, 1990)
  3. Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast (Capitol Records, 1982)
  2. Black Sabbath - Paranoid (Warner Bros., 1971)
  1. Metallica - Master of Puppets (Elektra Records, 1986)

What, no Vision Thing?

Quelle lot of bollocks! Scorpions? Queensryche? Metallica? I thought this was supposed to be Metal albums, not some Telstar government-approved PMRC-sanctioned Washington Wives-compiled list of cokc-rockers and people who learned to play guitar from the Aquanet Play-in-a-Day songbook! Where's Judas Priest's Stained Class? ACDC's Back in Black? Guns n'Roses' Appetite for Destruction? No Blue Oyster Cult? That there are three Metallica albums in the top 10 and they ALL rank higher than Ace of Spades leads me to think that this list was compiled by someone who's never spent the weekend in casualty with ruptured eardrums and a sprained neck from headbanging his way through Lemmy's greatest hits.
Listen, and listen well, Messers. Spence and Ed - don't even think about compiling a list of the Top 25 Metal Albums until you've had the setlist from Motorhead's 'Bastards' tour carved in your back with a rusty razor blade wielded by a roadie named Fat Val who hasn't slept or showered in 4 days.
Fcukers.

Just sayin'...

weebleswobble wrote:

• 25. Scorpions - Lovedrive (Mercury Records, 1979)
  24. Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime (EMI, 1988)
  23. Sepultura - Roots (Roadrunner Records, 1996)
  22. Ozzy - Diary of a Madman (Jet Records, 1981)
  21. Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind (Capitol Records, 1983)
  20. Deep Purple - Machine Head (Warner Bros., 1972)
  19. Pantera - Cowboys from Hell (Atlantic Records, 1990)
  18. Opeth - Blackwater Park (Koch, 2001)
  17. Mastodon - Blood Mountain (Reprise Records, 2006)
  16. Motley Crue - Shout at the Devil (Elektra Records, 1983)
  15. Judas Priest - Screaming for Vengeance (Columbia Records, 1982)
  14. Fate's Warning - No Exit (Metal Blade, 1988)
  13. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath (Warner Bros., 1970)
  12. Anthrax - Among the Living (Megaforce, 1987)
  11. Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power (East/West, 1992)
  10. Motorhead - Ace of Spades (Castle Music, 1980)
  9. Metallica - ...And Justice for All (Elektra Records, 1988)
  8. Dio - Holy Diver (Reprise Records, 1983)
  7. Slayer - Reign in Blood (American Records, 1986)
  6. Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard of Ozz (Jet Records, 1980)
  5. Metallica - Ride the Lightning (Elektra Records, 1984)
  4. Megadeth - Rust in Peace (Capitol Records, 1990)
  3. Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast (Capitol Records, 1982)
  2. Black Sabbath - Paranoid (Warner Bros., 1971)
  1. Metallica - Master of Puppets (Elektra Records, 1986)

No AC/DC ? Bollocks.
Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, and yet no Led Zeppelin, no Thin Lizzy ? Bollocks.
Three Metallica albums in the top 10 ? Bollocks.
Ace of spades at n°10 ? Only one Motöralbum ? Bollocks !!!
And where the fcuk is Ministry's Psalm 69

Paranoid as Sabbath's best-rated album? ARSE!

*Staying well out of this one...*

ah, you guys.... Think Motörhead is more metal than Metallica's Ride the Lightening? Pah. Go back to your goth compilations... Although I hold Motörhead dearly, I wouldnt call them Metal, they're rock, like AC/DC.

My Top 5:

1. Strapping Young Lad - City
2. Samael - Passage
3. Slayer - Reign in Blood
4. Metallica - Ride the Lightening
5. Ministry - Psalm 69

EvilBastard wrote:

weebleswobble wrote:Discuss (or not)

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IGN Music's Top 25 Metal Albums

• 25. Scorpions - Lovedrive (Mercury Records, 1979)
  24. Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime (EMI, 1988)
  23. Sepultura - Roots (Roadrunner Records, 1996)
  22. Ozzy - Diary of a Madman (Jet Records, 1981)
  21. Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind (Capitol Records, 1983)
  20. Deep Purple - Machine Head (Warner Bros., 1972)
  19. Pantera - Cowboys from Hell (Atlantic Records, 1990)
  18. Opeth - Blackwater Park (Koch, 2001)
  17. Mastodon - Blood Mountain (Reprise Records, 2006)
  16. Motley Crue - Shout at the Devil (Elektra Records, 1983)
  15. Judas Priest - Screaming for Vengeance (Columbia Records, 1982)
  14. Fate's Warning - No Exit (Metal Blade, 1988)
  13. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath (Warner Bros., 1970)
  12. Anthrax - Among the Living (Megaforce, 1987)
  11. Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power (East/West, 1992)
  10. Motorhead - Ace of Spades (Castle Music, 1980)
  9. Metallica - ...And Justice for All (Elektra Records, 1988)
  8. Dio - Holy Diver (Reprise Records, 1983)
  7. Slayer - Reign in Blood (American Records, 1986)
  6. Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard of Ozz (Jet Records, 1980)
  5. Metallica - Ride the Lightning (Elektra Records, 1984)
  4. Megadeth - Rust in Peace (Capitol Records, 1990)
  3. Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast (Capitol Records, 1982)
  2. Black Sabbath - Paranoid (Warner Bros., 1971)
  1. Metallica - Master of Puppets (Elektra Records, 1986)

What, no Vision Thing?

Quelle lot of bollocks! Scorpions? Queensryche? Metallica? I thought this was supposed to be Metal albums, not some Telstar government-approved PMRC-sanctioned Washington Wives-compiled list of cokc-rockers and people who learned to play guitar from the Aquanet Play-in-a-Day songbook! Where's Judas Priest's Stained Class? ACDC's Back in Black? Guns n'Roses' Appetite for Destruction? No Blue Oyster Cult? That there are three Metallica albums in the top 10 and they ALL rank higher than Ace of Spades leads me to think that this list was compiled by someone who's never spent the weekend in casualty with ruptured eardrums and a sprained neck from headbanging his way through Lemmy's greatest hits.
Listen, and listen well, Messers. Spence and Ed - don't even think about compiling a list of the Top 25 Metal Albums until you've had the setlist from Motorhead's 'Bastards' tour carved in your back with a rusty razor blade wielded by a roadie named Fat Val who hasn't slept or showered in 4 days.
Fcukers.

Just sayin'...

I don't think it's possible to have put it any better.

Although Master Of Puppets is rather great, and brooks no argument from me...

First question:

'Define Metal Album'.

Too much Metallica altogether...

Scorpions, the Rÿche, Ozzy, Crüe, Deep Purple... ain't metal. Rock yes.

Nice to see Pantera and Slayer in there tho!

But where is Morbid Angel, Strapping Young Lad (Thanks CD! ), Helloween (Keeper of the 7 Keys? Eh?), Kreator, Cradle (Principle of Evil started it all for me), Emperor...?

Bunch of pussies!

IZ.

They're certainly biased towards thrash and other more commercial subgenres.

I have to say though, I do agree with Master Of Puppets as a No. 1 - so shoot me!

canon docre wrote:Although I hold Motörhead dearly, I wouldnt call them Metal, they're rock, like AC/DC.

At the end of the day, all metal is rock music anyway. It is precisely when metal forgets that simple fact and tries to become a self-defining genre that I find it hugely boring.

Badlander wrote:

canon docre wrote:Although I hold Motörhead dearly, I wouldnt call them Metal, they're rock, like AC/DC.

At the end of the day, all metal is rock music anyway. It is precisely when metal forgets that simple fact and tries to become a self-defining genre that I find it hugely boring.

ja ok, at the end of the day, it all started in the cotton fields anyway. But if you try to make up a Top25 then stick to the genre and don't fill it up with rock albums, just because you don't know any more metal.....

And whoever puts Scorpions in there didnt get anything right.

Whilst some are entertaining, the albums in the list are, sans exceptions, garbage. Well ok, maybe Motorhead is better than the rest.

Any Mercyful Fate album from the 80s, for example, beats any Metallica album, and any Accept album beats any Iron Maiden album, though must be admitted that even those bands are mostly just entertaining.

i couldn't compose a list of 10 good metal albums without it being dominated by black metal, cause most metal bands are simply commercial, or at least, in the business of distributing mercy.

itnAklipse wrote:Whilst some are entertaining, the albums in the list are, sans exceptions, garbage. Well ok, maybe Motorhead is better than the rest.

Any Mercyful Fate album from the 80s, for example, beats any Metallica album, and any Accept album beats any Iron Maiden album, though must be admitted that even those bands are mostly just entertaining.

BOOOO!!!!!

i couldn't compose a list of 10 good metal albums without it being dominated by black metal, cause most metal bands are simply commercial, or at least, in the business of distributing mercy.

YAAAAYY!!!

Start one, please do!

IZ.

PIL ~ 2nd edition (Remix) : no contest

Ahráyeph wrote:*Staying well out of this one...*

I'll join you...

James Blast wrote:

Ahráyeph wrote:*Staying well out of this one...*

I'll join you...

Guid. Let's go and have a cold one together while them lot is arguing aboot what is metal and what isn't. Far more constructive in the way of bonding, I say...

I don't think the list is too bad.

Gotta agree with Izzy... Scorpions, Queensryche, Ozzy, Crüe, Deep Purple & Motorhead aren't metal in my book.

Metal to me consists of (early) Metallica, Pantera, Sepultura, Slayer, Machine Head, Priest, Maiden et all.
Nothing to do with the commercial side for me & I'm only listing popular bands as people will have heard of them.

Ps. Any Talion fans out there?! Proper hair metal!!!

canon docre wrote:But if you try to make up a Top25 then stick to the genre and don't fill it up with rock albums, just because you don't know any more metal.....

I do know Strapping young lad, Samael, Slayer, and Metallica, but I don't like any of them, thank you Jess.

BTW if the title of the original article is any indication, these are supposed to be "the most influential heavy metal albums ever", which are not necessarily the best nor the most commercially successful.

Then where the fcuk are Rage against the machine, Machine Head, Korn, Deftones... whose respective first albums (whether you like them or not) all help define 90s metal ? At least one of them should be in.
And where is Paradise lost ? Back in 94-95, Icon and Draconian times were not only best-sellers, but they also brought doom-death to the forefront.
Why isn 't there any live album ? ("No sleep" anyone ?)

The problem is not that this top 25 is subjective, the problem is that it's only half-baked.

Badlander wrote:

canon docre wrote:But if you try to make up a Top25 then stick to the genre and don't fill it up with rock albums, just because you don't know any more metal.....

I do know Strapping young lad, Samael, Slayer, and Metallica, but I don't like any of them, thank you Jess.

Oh I didnt mean you, honey. Just the people from the poll. Damn me always writes "you" instead of "one" to express the neutral.

@ Ahráyep & James: If one cannot argue about metal anymore the world comes to a halt.

a couple in that 25 are ok, the rest is just toilet!
irn missus???????? kiddy rok band designed to p*ss off the middle class parents by kids with no idea of rebellion!
more Motorhead and some Disturbed please!

Ahh the old debate once again rears it's rather ugly head. What is metal and what is not? That blurry line that has dogged us for decades now. But ti all comes under the umbrella of rock.

There's a scene in jack Black's School of Rock which perfectly shows the 'rock tree' that we have suckled the sap of at some point in our lives.

So from Poison to Slayer, from Sabbath to Tigertailz and from Napalm Death to maybe even the Sisters, it's all rock, just some of it is more s**t than the rest of it - I mean diverse!

But an all time top 25 without even a sniff of Aerosmith and Guns n' frickin Roses is unforgivable!

Excuse my lack of eloquence and use of witty one liners apparently I'm prone to relapsing into that particular style of communication .

Hi ohhhhh

canon docre wrote:

Badlander wrote:

canon docre wrote:But if you try to make up a Top25 then stick to the genre and don't fill it up with rock albums, just because you don't know any more metal.....

I do know Strapping young lad, Samael, Slayer, and Metallica, but I don't like any of them, thank you Jess.

Oh I didnt mean you, honey. Just the people from the poll. Damn me always writes "you" instead of "one" to express the neutral.

@ Ahráyep & James: If one cannot argue about metal anymore the world comes to a halt.

While we're at it, where are THEY

I mean: Ief you ahr naht in metaaaaahlll! Zen you ahr naht mah freeeeendhh!!! HAS to be somewher in the best Metal list, no?

IZ.

canon docre wrote: Oh I didnt mean you, honey. Just the people from the poll. Damn me always writes "you" instead of "one" to express the neutral.

Oops, sorry too. I shouldn't have been so touchy.

@ Ramone : cool post.

Izzy HaveMercy wrote: While we're at it, where are THEY

I mean: Ief you ahr naht in metaaaaahlll! Zen you ahr naht mah freeeeendhh!!! HAS to be somewher in the best Metal list, no?

Not sure I really get it but still :
I'm afraid deep down I'm no true metal warrior.

Was that Manowar ?

@ Ramone - Aerosmith!?! No no no!

did somebody at the back quietly whisper.......
what about Manowar?