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Support your local ARF
Posted: 25 Jan 2007, 22:30
by mh
I note that the demo songs are available for purchase, and have duly done so.
No CD-scrounger, I! The guy's done a damned fine job, and deserves support.
Posted: 25 Jan 2007, 22:34
by EvilBastard
Yes, please give generously to the estates of Andreas Baader and Ulrike Meinhof...
Posted: 25 Jan 2007, 23:21
by Badlander
EvilBastard wrote:Yes, please give generously to the estates of Andreas Baader and Ulrike Meinhof...
Dude, this is a pizzeria. Everybody knows that.
Re: Support your local RAF
Posted: 25 Jan 2007, 23:54
by Ahráyeph
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Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 00:34
by Izzy HaveMercy
EvilBastard wrote:Yes, please give generously to the estates of Andreas Baader and Ulrike Meinhof...
Actually, they are very good friends of ours!
http://www.dbmg-raf.com/
IZ.
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 10:26
by MadameButterfly
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:EvilBastard wrote:Yes, please give generously to the estates of Andreas Baader and Ulrike Meinhof...
Actually, they are very good friends of ours!
http://www.dbmg-raf.com/
IZ.
And I too absolutely love their work!
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 12:57
by Izzy HaveMercy
MadameButterfly wrote:Izzy HaveMercy wrote:EvilBastard wrote:Yes, please give generously to the estates of Andreas Baader and Ulrike Meinhof...
Actually, they are very good friends of ours!
http://www.dbmg-raf.com/
IZ.
And I too absolutely love their work!
You have to when you like FGG
They actually remixed a song of ours, it's on our MySpace
IZ.
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 13:19
by MadameButterfly
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:
You have to when you like FGG
Yes well I love FGG!
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:They actually remixed a song of ours, it's on our MySpace
IZ.
hehehe, yeah I know about that, Mr. Meinhof told me so.
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 13:44
by James Blast
Ave' It!
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 13:54
by Ahráyeph
Erm... I already put my foot in my mouth about this last night, James.
I should probably mention that I was under the influence of several Duvels.
I should have known when the topic didn't read 'Support your local ARF'...
(But thanks again for your support
Brother Blast!
)
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 14:03
by mh
Ahráyeph wrote:Erm... I already put my foot in my mouth about this last night, James.
I should probably mention that I was under the influence of several Duvels.
I should have known when the topic didn't read 'Support your local ARF'...
Oh dear, it
should have, then.
Mistake corrected.
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 14:05
by Ahráyeph
*Confused while sober now*
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 14:18
by James Blast
as you were...
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 14:20
by Izzy HaveMercy
Ahráyeph wrote:*Confused while sober now*
Duvel is the devil's work, Raf
(something our Engerlund friends WILL find out in due time, remember our Youth House sells them for about a paand!
)
IZ.
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 14:29
by Ahráyeph
I'll bring me sleeping bag! Sorry Andrew...
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 14:53
by mh
Ahráyeph wrote:*Confused while sober now*
Now I'm confused too... did ya not know about this: http://www.legaldownload.net/dotNet/art ... ist_id=600
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 15:00
by Ahráyeph
Erm, yes, I did. But I wasn't aware that anyone still went there, hahahaha! These are older demos, far less in quality in terms of production. Probably good for posterity. I thought they had already put that page out of comission, as I haven't paid the yearly fee when it expired last year...
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 15:02
by James Blast
<------- quickly checks that site!
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 15:09
by mh
Ha!
You mean I have the
ORIGINAL versions? (Including the mighty "Farewell")
Where did I leave that look of smug superiority?
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 15:21
by MadameButterfly
Oh I see, so it was
EvilBastard that caused confusion.
And we all know that we shouldn't post whilst wasted.
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 15:26
by Ahráyeph
Well... Only original in terms of poorly produced and badly sung.
. I guess the upside is that you now have three more songs that are not on the MCD, being 'Seele', 'Memories' and 'Farewell'. Perhaps I should say something about those songs :
The 'Seele' demo you've got has different lyrics than the version that will appear on the debut album. The story behind the 'original' lyrics is a true story of a German soldier who comes back after fifty- odd years to find the woman he loved when the Wehrmacht was occupying this country. I decided to change the lyrics as they didn't fit into the theme of 'Marooned on Samsara', which are personal observations on life. The lyrical theme as found on this demo version justifies the samples of the 'Total War' speech by Goebbels to work as contrast with the love this soldier pressed into service feels for the local woman, even after all those years. Hence also the sample of 'Erika' sung by Wehrmacht soldiers at the end.
'Memories' is my 'Sisters/Joy Division/Bauhaus' tribute. The lyrics speak for themselves.
'Farewell' might be something James loves, because I'm told by my own band mates that it's quite Pink Floyd- esque. I wasn't really sure about putting it on the album, but my band mates convinced me otherwise.
There you go...
Meanwhile, I'm still embarrassed about the quality of these demos. I thought this page had gone the way of the dodo...
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 15:27
by Ahráyeph
MadameButterfly wrote:Oh I see, so it was
EvilBastard that caused confusion.
And we all know that we shouldn't post whilst wasted.
Not only a whip, but also salt to rub in the wound, I see...
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 15:40
by mh
Ahráyeph wrote:Well... Only original in terms of poorly produced and badly sung. :oops. I guess the upside is that you now have three more songs that are not on the MCD, being 'Seele', 'Memories' and 'Farewell'. Perhaps I should say something about those songs :
The 'Seele' demo you've got has different lyrics than the version that will appear on the debut album. The story behind the 'original' lyrics is a true story of a German soldier who comes back after fifty- odd years to find the woman he loved when the Wehrmacht was occupying this country. I decided to change the lyrics as they didn't fit into the theme of 'Marooned on Samsara', which are personal observations on life. The lyrical theme as found on this demo version justifies the samples of the 'Total War' speech by Goebbels to work as contrast with the love this soldier pressed into service feels for the local woman, even after all those years. Hence also the sample of 'Erika' sung by Wehrmacht soldiers at the end.
'Memories' is my 'Sisters/Joy Division/Bauhaus' tribute. The lyrics speak for themselves.
'Farewell' might be something James loves, because I'm told by my own band mates that it's quite Pink Floyd- esque. I wasn't really sure about putting it on the album, but my band mates convinced me otherwise.
There you go...
Meanwhile, I'm still embarrassed about the quality of these demos. I thought this page had gone the way of the dodo...
I see (and hear) nowt wrong with them - are you sure you're not being a little hard on yourself here?
Memories is quite a cool track, but Farewell does totally overshadow them all. Superb stuff. That tinkling melody in it - is it a sample? It sure sounds damn familiar from somewhere.
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 15:42
by James Blast
Ahráyeph wrote:'Farewell' might be something James loves
Spookily enough, that was the one that really jumped out at me!
Good to see the rest of your combo have guid taste.
TXT rcvd BTW
Posted: 26 Jan 2007, 15:53
by Ahráyeph
mh wrote:I see (and hear) nowt wrong with them - are you sure you're not being a little hard on yourself here?
Memories is quite a cool track, but Farewell does totally overshadow them all. Superb stuff. That tinkling melody in it - is it a sample? It sure sounds damn familiar from somewhere.
Thanks, I just might be, being the wee perfectionist I am.
With the 'tinkling melody' I'm assuming you're referring to the clean guitar part that rings throughout the song.
*Tech Music Nerd Mode Engaged* This song actually came about when I was dicking around with a preset in the Guitar Rig VST plugin. It sounded so good, that I kept playing the chord structure you're hearing over and over. So I decided to record the eight bars dry, then copy and paste it to loop, glue those loops together and then process the track with Guitar Rig. Presto : one very clean and spacey guitar part. I did the same thing with the bass. I've never been a cut- and- paste musician, but this was an experiment gone right. I wanted to have a long song that just meandered on and on and burst into something more powerful midway through. I'm not really satisfied with how it was executed. Probably the most demo- ish song of the bunch, as the new version will be A LOT better and will feature the other guys minus Cris (the synths stay the same) playing the looped parts, and a more powerful last half section...
*Tech Music Nerd Mode Off*