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LEEDS AND ANDREW
Posted: 23 Jan 2003, 01:51
by Ribbons75
I love Eldritch and the Sisters from Italy.... In my country it's very diffucult to listen "good" "alternative" music.... we are "USA-dependent" (not only for music.....)
In Italy, for some ex-dark with a lot of memory, the Sisters were the dark group of "First and last and Always" and STOP !!
I like very much the english music (and english mentality in a generalized manner) but, i've noticed in my numerous travels to London that there are not much memory about The Sisters.... Maybe, currently, there are more Sisters-fans in Germany ?
Or the really Sisters fans are little but wherever ? When I see you in the Sisters' concerts i understand what mean to love the Sisters !
I'm very curious about to know what's the relation between Andrew and her city. Leeds remembers Andrew ? How Leeds has lived the birth and the development of the Sisters ? Andrew returns in her city sometimes ?
Tell me please....
Thank you very much and...... resist we because we are the best ones !!
If i knew the English language well.....
Bye bodies electric !
Posted: 23 Jan 2003, 08:20
by Quiff Boy
first of all, let me say that you speak english better than i could speak italian!
i think it is sad, but yes. there probably are more Sisters fans in germany than in the uk.
germany has always been more open minded towards "dark" pop music.
in the uk, if it doesnt have blond hair, blue eyes & white teeth, then its marginalised. its put to one side, for the students, goths, and wierdos to like...
http://www.thesistersofmercy.com/gen/vn ... ettext.htm
Anyway, I'm constantly confronted by representatives of popular culture who are far more g*** than we, yet I have only to wear black socks to be stigmatised as the demon overlord. Luckily, this is a particularly British misconception, so we don't usually have to deal with it much. Mainland journalists very rarely ask questions like the one above, and then only in reference to British media practices...
People should think of the Sisters with awe. They should think of the Sisters with a savage smile in the higher cortex, and a certain moistness in the lower gusset. Thank you.
having said that, these days even the so called "alternative" music is made by shiny happy bright young things... be it "nu metal", that power-pop that calls itself modern day punk, or the farse that is modern day "indie".
germany also has more goths
andrew & leeds?
in his own words from an interview circa 1984 "leeds has been very good to us".
the sisters were born out of a frustration, a backlash, a form of expression about life in thatcher-ite northern britain.
eldritch himself has a few words to say on the subject here:
http://www.thesistersofmercy.com/gen/rrr1.htm
The Sisters were to form part of an anomalous rebellion along the M62, a motorway which crosses northern England and joins Liverpool, Manchester and Leeds. Nearby Sheffield can be considered a part of this enclave. Hull never bothered; it finally produced ...the Housemartins. Apart from New Model Army, Bradford could only ever boast fundamentalist traces of the few youth movements which had landed and promptly left. In each city, the rebellion had a different dominant flavour. Leeds, as the Sisters knew it, was a speed town, charged with a broadly political kind of gang warfare.
The subculture in Leeds was clearly divided at the time. The punks were almost exclusively left-wing (to varying degrees, but united in their contempt of the right-wing) and vaguely allied to the dub factions of Chapeltown and Harehills. On the other hand was a right-wing alliance of general Aryan types, skinheads, would-be mods and a few confused teds. There were regular skirmishes between the two sides. The right-wing would sally forth from the Whip and the Adelphi, adding to the routine violence of Tetley Bittermen at closing time. The F Club offered a relatively safe base for the punk contingent, and every visiting band would play there which was not big or mainstream enough for the university. It's where the first Sisters (and many of their lifelong friends) met each other.
The Sisters were not part of the art-school scene which threw up excellent bands like Gang Of Four, Mekons, Delta 5, and (indirectly) Scritti Politti. The Sisters belonged firmly to the non-student, city end of things. Their immediate forbears were the Expelaires, Music For Pleasure and Dance Chapter. The counterparts in Liverpool were The Teardrop Explodes, Pink Military and Echo And The Bunnymen; Manchester was primarily represented by Joy Division and The Chameleons. Sheffield had the mighty Comsat Angels, Clock DVA, Cabaret Voltaire and the Human League in their initial, fabulously Gerry Anderson phase. Indeed, Andrew says the best double-bill he ever saw was that incarnation of the Human League, with Père Ubu, on the F Club's tiny stage.
hope that helps
Posted: 23 Jan 2003, 18:55
by Izzy HaveMercy
BTW, welcome, Ribbons!
Enjoy your stay...
.
Posted: 23 Jan 2003, 22:46
by Ribbons75
Many thanks Quiff Boy, you've been much kind !!!
Thanks to the city of Leeds to have to us given the genius of Andrew !!
Beautiful times the 80 's !
Long life to the sisters !!
If there will be never a new album ? For me every bootleg it's a new album....
My english ?
http://babelfish.altavista.com 
Thanks of the welcome to Izzy HaveMercy !!!
Byeeeeeeeeee !
Posted: 25 Jan 2003, 19:28
by Drsisters
Froma a interview back in 93, Andrew claims that he bought a house in Leeds with the intent to spend some more time there. Don´t know how it is theese days, but i should guess that he still have the house or at least a apartment there.
Posted: 26 Jan 2003, 01:04
by Ribbons75
Posted: 26 Jan 2003, 01:09
by Quiff Boy
Drsisters wrote:Froma a interview back in 93, Andrew claims that he bought a house in Leeds with the intent to spend some more time there. Don´t know how it is theese days, but i should guess that he still have the house or at least a apartment there.
i can't say i've ever seen him hanging around town though...
maybe around the back of kirkgate market, trying to score...?
or cruising up and down spencer place in chapeltown/harehills looking for some action...?
Posted: 26 Jan 2003, 13:49
by Dan
Last I heard was that the singer of La Costa Rasa was living in Andrews house, although Andrew still owns it and stays there whenever he's in Leeds.
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 10:52
by Dirk McQuigley
When I met the band in Manchester back in '85 they all seemed immensely proud of the fact that they were from Leeds. Wayne couldn't shut up slagging off Manchester whilst going on about how superior the Leeds 'scene' was. He even went as far as to sign something for someone with the words 'Manchester....Ha ha ha...Bonk!'
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 10:54
by Quiff Boy
Dirk McQuigley wrote:When I met the band in Manchester back in '85 they all seemed immensely proud of the fact that they were from Leeds. Wayne couldn't shut up slagging off Manchester whilst going on about how superior the Leeds 'scene' was. He even went as far as to sign something for someone with the words 'Manchester....Ha ha ha...Bonk!'
LOL! they are after all from the better part of the land of lard...
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 10:55
by Quiff Boy
even though hussey is a scouser, and von is from london (which explains nicely why he's a man u fan!)
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 11:01
by Dirk McQuigley
Quiff Boy wrote:even though hussey is a scouser, and von is from london (which explains nicely why he's a man u fan!)
I remember Marks telling us that Andrew was a red. He was trying to mediate I think.
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 11:09
by Quiff Boy
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 11:16
by Dirk McQuigley
I think that there quite possibly were. Imagine if Hussey was a Liverpool fan
!
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 11:18
by Quiff Boy
Dirk McQuigley wrote:
I think that there quite possibly were. Imagine if Hussey was a Liverpool fan
!
it explains a quite lot about the events of 85 actually....
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 11:39
by RobF
It's a triangle of footy doom
My friend Mally is a fellow Yorkshireman, and a Man U fan
What the hell's wrong with these people
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 17:54
by Karst
Quiff Boy wrote:even though hussey is a scouser.
He isn't actually, he was born and raised in Bristol.
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 18:01
by Quiff Boy
Karst wrote:Quiff Boy wrote:even though hussey is a scouser.
He isn't actually, he was born and raised in Bristol.
is he? lordy! i didnt know that!
must have been the dead or alive connection that threw me
cheers
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 18:04
by Karst
Quiff Boy wrote:must have been the dead or alive connection that threw me
Well, he did start he's musical career there - even nearly ended up with Holly Johnson (FGTH) - now that would have been scary.
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 18:05
by Quiff Boy
Posted: 30 Jan 2003, 18:37
by hallucienate
Quiff Boy wrote:
christ! hussey in FGTH?!? i can just see him in a pair of pvc chaps! the tart!
that's just sick
Posted: 01 Feb 2003, 00:00
by Andy TG
Why do people 'hate" Jerry lovelock - I mean Mr. That Guitarist - I know why I do - But WHY do you (let the character assanination begin!)
Posted: 01 Feb 2003, 00:05
by 6FeetOver
Posted: 01 Feb 2003, 00:11
by RobF
Oh you love it! Pert Hussey buttocks glinting in the strobes
The beautiful vision of Wayne's "tower of strength" shimmering in the dry ice
Posted: 01 Feb 2003, 00:51
by Ed Rhombus
Right.
Huss grew up in Yate, left at 18
As he told me this year 'Hated Bristol when I lived there, really like it now'
Jerry Lovelock was a name he made up for a Smash Hits interview, under real name question, funny interview, did they know he was taking the p*ss?
Yate = Very bad indeed
Nice guy if in the right mood, met his parents this summer too, smashing!
Thanks so much for the *revolting* mental image, Quiffy... *Shudder* I think I'm going to need therapy to shut that one out!