Heartland

As I have been traveling I have become used to having to download new music and tracks that I haven't uploaded onto my ipod before leaving my records behind. For this I have a paypal account to pay for the music, but I do know that there are sites I can go to to download for free. So I was wondering how many of you actually buy your downloads and who takes them for free.
This question is pure curiosity, I won't judge anyone on their answers.

Both.

SINsister wrote:Both.

So what conditions do you apply to your choice. Why pay or not?

@ Sin - I do like your signature

Arch Deviant wrote:

SINsister wrote:Both.

So what conditions do you apply to your choice. Why pay or not?

@ Sin - I do like your signature

If I can find what I'm looking for on a pay site, I'll gladly pay. Often, though, I can't. I feel bad about taking stuff for free, but if that's the only way I can get a song I really want...meh.


And thanks!

My whole ethos with music is pretty set in stone (or, to put it another way, Carpy is very predictable at times)

1) Some artists I just buy straight away on cd or legal d/l

2) If I download stuff on p2p and I find I listen to it a lot I buy the real CD

3) If I download stuff on p2p and it's rubbish then I delete it.

Simple really - my p2p antics act as a quality control buffer.

This way my cd collection grows with decent stuff I know will get played and artists that make good music get money. Record labels or bands that trot out a heap of pony don't. Also, through using p2p to sample stuff I've found and got into some artists that I'd never have just walked into a shop and chanced on a cd for - that's as much due to the amount of dross released overall as anything.

...exactly.

In my case, I'm too poor to be able to buy every single thing I discover; also, some stuff just sucks, and I'm glad that I didn't shell out bucks I didn't have...

I do like the fact that I can get to listen before I buy, especially if it has been recommended to me by someone who's taste Im not convinced by. It beats judging a record by its cover.

i have read somewhere that if you if you pay 1€, the artist get only 0.01€.
so i won't pay for it.

sisterstekland wrote:i have read somewhere that if you if you pay 1€, the artist get only 0.01€.
so i won't pay for it.

Were did you read that! In a tory manifesto?

I only download bootlegs, not official releases.

I usually buy music from independent record stores, where I can listen beforehand. That way I make sure I don't pay for crappy records.
And I get to make friends with people who know and care about music.

I'm fed up with major record stores. They all suck.

Badlander wrote:I only download bootlegs, not official releases.

I usually buy music from independent record stores, where I can listen beforehand. That way I make sure I don't pay for crappy records.
And I get to make friends with people who know and care about music.

I'm fed up with major record stores. They all suck.

See I've never been a collector of bootlegs as I think it's robbing the artist of money. That's just my opinion Im not infering anything

I can't remember the last time I went to a record shop.
I buy most of my stuff online & I'll only download freebies if they are one-offs or concerts (like here).
Ultimately, if I download something & I like it, I will hunt for the disc itself.

Pista wrote:I can't remember the last time I went to a record shop.
I buy most of my stuff online & I'll only download freebies if they are one-offs or concerts (like here).
Ultimately, if I download something & I like it, I will hunt for the disc itself.

I like you

Why thanks AD.
I guess that's the Heartland effect again

Pista wrote:Why thanks AD.
I guess that's the Heartland effect again

Nope. Thats just you being good.

I never pay for a mp3, its just my own opinion but I like to hold something in my hands when I have bought it (I must be old fashion or something )
Every time I hear of something I like I will download it from the net and I’ll gladly pay money for a cd if it is worth it.

Otherwise I couldn’t fit in my room with all the unused records I had to buy and I wouldn’t own half of the good thing I have now simply because I wouldn’t have known them and I couldn’t get there albums in the local stores anyway.

I'm not exactly raking in the money, so unless it's an album I really, really, really want, I download it and give it a few listens. If it's below the bar, I delete it; if it's good but not really good, I keep it; if it's impossible to buy in the shops, I keep it; if it's just one particular track I like from some obscure band or band I generally don't like, I keep it; if it's an album I really like, I then go out and buy it.

Arch Deviant wrote: See I've never been a collector of bootlegs as I think it's robbing the artist of money. That's just my opinion Im not infering anything

Who said I bought bootlegs ?
I used to, before the days of broadband connections, but I don't anymore, not with all the great stuff you can find on Dime.
As for "robbing the artist of money", I have to disagree. Who buys boots ? Only dedicated fans, who already have the official releases. It's never been "official release or boot" to me, it's "official release and boot".

i've a wealth of old music and there's no new music i want to listen to so i'm totally unconcerned by these kinds of problems. Which isn't to say i would not be if i did want to listen to some new music.
Basically i'm against supporting any "industry" that churns out consumer products and works on the basis of making money.

Carpathian Psychonaut wrote:
1) Some artists I just buy straight away on cd or legal d/l

2) If I download stuff on p2p and I find I listen to it a lot I buy the real CD

3) If I download stuff on p2p and it's rubbish then I delete it.

same here, i download to check, if it's good I buy if it's bad bye-bye. this is the only way for my i don't have money for experimentation.

sisterstekland wrote:i have read somewhere that if you if you pay 1€, the artist get only 0.01€.
so i won't pay for it.

Sadly enough, I guess that's true in a lot of cases.

OTOH, this is not the case with legal downloads. CD's cost a lot because much people are involved in the process of production, promotion and distro. And everyone wants a slice of the pie. Not in the least the tax company...

With legal DLs a lot of people are cut out and more money goes/could go/should go to the artist proper.

I am with Carpy on the three steps to music heaven

IZ.

I don't pay for downloads.

If I want some official media based on what I've heard from downloads, I'll buy it if I like it.

I use Soulseek, and if I like what I hear then I buy it

Dark wrote:I don't pay for downloads.

If I want some official media based on what I've heard from downloads, I'll buy it if I like it.

Ditto, although maybe I'm out on a limb here but is everybody's halo still intact ? The internet is overrun with music that nobody is paying for and its not all being downloaded by Romanian gypsies and crack addicts.

runs for cover...

Dr. Moody wrote:

Dark wrote:I don't pay for downloads.

If I want some official media based on what I've heard from downloads, I'll buy it if I like it.

The internet is overrun with music that nobody is paying for and its not all being downloaded by Romanian gypsies and crack addicts.

Nope... mostly by teenagers that have a shit taste in music that is not worth buying in the first place.

HL people are decent humans, what else can you expect?

IZ.