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Extreme Lyrics Fishing

Posted: 29 Apr 2007, 18:38
by Tidal
Sounds like a strange sport don't it? :lol:
Well, as an always curious person I've been wanting to find the exact lyrics of all Sisters songs I have, since many lyrics sites have many mistakes and parts missing. And because I will need to hear the entire song and stop it on various occasions, it will take a long time. But I have begun on my personal fave lyrics (Dominion) and then on into Flood I as the two merge their begin and end together. I have succeeded in finding a few minor details that I haven't found in any other source. Because it is hard to decipher words just by listening carefully or checking a site for extra certainty, the results may not be 100% accurate but at least a lot better than most sites.

Dominion:

"In the heat of the night
In the heat of the day
When I close my eyes, when I look your way,
when I meet the fear that lies inside, when I hear you say
In the heat of the moment
Say say say

Some day
Some day
Some day
Dominion
Come a time

Some day
Some day
Some day
Dominion
Some say prayers some say prayers
I say mine

In the light of the fact
On the lone and the level
Sand stretch far away
In the heat of the action
In the settled dust
Hold hold and sway
In the meeting of mined
Down in the streets of shame
In the betting of names on gold to rust
In the land of the blind
Be
King, king, king, king

Some day
Some day
Some day
Dominion
Come a time

Some day
Some day
Some day
Dominion
Some say prayers some say prayers
I say mine

In the land of the blind
Be
King, king, king, king

Some day
Some day
Some day
Dominion
Some say prayers some say prayers
I say mine

In the heat of the night
In the heat of the day
When I close my eyes, when I look your way,
when I meet the fear that lies inside, when I hear you say
In the heat of the moment
Say say say

Some day
Some day
Some day
Some day
Dominion
Some say prayers some say prayers
I say mine

I say mine

I say (mine
We serve an old) man in the dry season
A lighthouse keeper in the desert sun
Dreamers of sleepers and white treason
We dream of rain and the history of the gun
There’s a lighthouse in the middle of Prussia
A white house in a red square
I’m living in films for the sake of Russia
A Kino runner for the DDR
And the fifty-two daughters of the revolution
Turn the gold to chrome
Gift, nothing to lose
Stuck inside of Memphis with the mobile home, sing

Mother Russia
Mother Russia
Mother Russia, rain down down down
Mother Russia
Mother Russia
Mother Russia, rain down

Mother Russia
Mother Russia
Mother Russia, rain down down down
Mother Russia
Mother Russia
Mother Russia, rain down

Mother Russia
Mother Russia
Mother Russia, rain down down down
Mother Russia
Mother Russia
Mother Russia, rain down

Mother Russia
Mother Russia
Mother Russia, rain down down down
Mother Russia
Mother Russia
Mother Russia rain down down down down down

Mother Russia
Mother Russia"


- there's ofcourse always the debate about the "pun" usage in songs, here we have the "mined", "sway" and "Kino" that can be interpreted as "mind", "stay" or "say" and "keno".

- in the 6th time the choral sings "Some day, some day, some day" , Andrew actually drops in for a fourth "Some day" , which is not noticed in many lyrics databases.

- there is also the debate about where Dominion stops and the so called sub-song Mother Russia begins. Lyrically, this is somewhere between the last "Some say prayers some say prayers" and "...man in the dry season".
because between those, there is a three time repeat of "I say mine" of which the third is interrupted by the opening "We serve an old...". One could say the "I say mine"-'s are Dominion, which would create a difficult situation, but usually, the first "I say mine" of the three is counted as Dominion and the other two belong to Mother Russia. This is for instance the method in the Dominion video clip, which stops after the first.

- and finally the point where Dominion/Mother Russia ends and Flood I begins. On a CD this point can be found at the twenty-fourth time "Mother Russia" is said, because between the "Ru..." and the "...ssia" the song changes into Flood I, which can be noticed because the singing is suddenly higher pitched. If we count the "Mother Russia"-'s in Flood I as still a part of Dominion/Mother Russia, the additional lyrics are

"Mother Russia rain down down down down down

Mother Russia
Mother Russia
"

...after which no more singing can be heard. Yes, five times "down" in the last part.


Flood I:

"Her hallway
Moves
Like the ocean
Moves

At the head of the river
At the source of the sea

Sitting here now in this bar for hours
Trying to write it down
Fitting in hard with harder to come
Trying to fight it down, the river there’s a ship will carry you
Downriver downstream
Down the river there’s a ship will carry the dream

Dream of the flood downriver there’s a ship will carry the
Dream of the flood

Her hallway
As the water come rushing over
As the water come rushing in
As the water come rushing over

Flood
Flood

Push the glass, stain the glass
Push the writer to the wall
It may come but it will pass
Some say we will fall
Dream of the flood

Push
Flood

Hallway

Push

Oh maybe in terms of surrender
On a backcloth of lashes and eyes
In the flood of your tears
In sackcloth and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and lies

Push
Her hallway
Push
Like, like, like

As the water come rushing in
As the water come rushing over

Sitting here now in this bar for hours while these
Strange men rent strange flowers
I’ll be picking up your petals in another few hours
In the metal and blood in the scent and mascara
On a backcloth of lashes and stars
In the flood of your tears
In sackcloth and ashes and ashes and second-hand passion
And stolen guitars

Her hallway

As the water come rushing in
Like the sea
As the water come rushing over
Dream of the flood
In the flood of your tears
In sackcloth and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and love as the water come rushing over
Rushing in

At the head of the river
At the source of the sea
Her hallway
Flood
Like, like, like
Flood"


- nothing really special, but there is something worth noticing: during this song Andrew whispers multiple times, and I have tried to hear what he said. Mostly he says "Flood" "Her hallway" and "Like, like, like" but upon careful listening it is revealed that he also says something like "Push" multiple times, for example:
"Some say we will fall
Dream of the flood
Push
Flood
Hallway
Push
Oh maybe in terms of surrender"

It definately sounds like "push", but maybe I'm wrong.

- Andrew likes enjambments as we can see, especially if he can create multiple meanings with it:
"Trying to fight it down, the river there’s a ship will carry you..."

but I spotted something very unusual at a certain point which may not be a word, but it is definately a vowel and if interpreted the way I heard it, it creates a whole new possible meaning to "strange men rent strange flowers":

"Sitting here now in this bar for hours worries
Strange men rent strange flowers"

Try it yourself, you might be surprised.

- and finally: during the second "and ashes and ashes........etc" I heard Andrew did most certainly NOT say "lies", but, as far as I could hear, he said "love".

"In sackcloth and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and love as the water come rushing over..."



More to come soon!

Posted: 29 Apr 2007, 19:59
by Dark
Uhh...? :?:

Posted: 29 Apr 2007, 20:00
by canon docre
:eek:

Posted: 29 Apr 2007, 20:47
by buzz
at the moment i drink wine... thats fine.

Re: Extreme Lyrics Fishing

Posted: 29 Apr 2007, 20:48
by eotunun
Tidal wrote:
- and finally: during the second "and ashes and ashes........etc" I heard Andrew did most certainly NOT say "lies", but, as far as I could hear, he said "love".

"In sackcloth and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and ashes and love as the water come rushing over..."



More to come soon!
A nice one, Tiddles!
:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
I allways thought that by varying the sung lyrics to the written ones there were multiple ways of interpretation offered. I heard that bit I quoted from your post as ending on "And ashes of love" since I´ve known it.
Generally I like the idea of "fuzzing" the content of the lyrics so you have two (or more) "threads", two (o.m. ..) trains of thought that sound allmost identical running along next to each other and crossing their ways every now and then.
Hardcore punning.
I am rather sure that I am git enough not to have noticed that there has been somebody who gave that technic of writing a latin name centuries ago. :oops:
As Eldo is known as a perfectionist and and uses lots of puns I wouldn´t be surprised this was intended.

Posted: 29 Apr 2007, 20:49
by Tidal
[simple version] I spotted some mistakes in online sisters lyrics and found some previously unheard words in the songs, and I want you to listen to the songs again and tell me if you think I'm right or wrong about it.

Posted: 29 Apr 2007, 23:11
by Rafster
I am really, really happy that I don't think about these kinds of things.

Re: Extreme Lyrics Fishing

Posted: 29 Apr 2007, 23:19
by nowayjose
Tidal wrote:Sounds like a strange sport don't it? :lol:
...
Have you taken the nerd test already from the other thread?

Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 03:43
by 6FeetOver
Hehehe. I haven't the patience for this sort of thing anymore, but I used to - like counting how many times the "Naaaa-na-na-na-na-na-naaaa, na-na-na-naaaa, hey Jude!" was repeated at the end of that song. I counted 33 times, once, but who knows if that's accurate (i.e., radio stations could've been cutting a few off the end during the song's airplay...)? I never bothered to find out.

ETA: according to Wikipedia, I was way off, hahaha! :lol: :oops:

Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 04:07
by Petseri
Should we tell Tidal that there is a whole section dedicated to threads on lyrics? :innocent:

Please do not start new threads if there is one already. See the index.

Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 04:41
by 6FeetOver
Shall this topic be moved then, dear Pets?

Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 07:53
by James Blast
I told you all he was a menace!

in fact I mean logic ;D

Re: Extreme Lyrics Fishing

Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 09:41
by MrChris
Tidal wrote:
I spotted something very unusual at a certain point which may not be a word, but it is definately a vowel and if interpreted the way I heard it, it creates a whole new possible meaning to "strange men rent strange flowers":

"Sitting here now in this bar for hours worries
Strange men rent strange flowers"

Try it yourself, you might be surprised.
You spotted something unusual in the sense that it isn't there, I'm afraid...
It actually goes 'Sitting here now in this bar for hours while these
Strange men rent strange flowers'. Check the lyric sheet!

No mystery here, time to move on.

Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 10:02
by Tidal
thank you ! guess I assumed that line was the same as the previous "strange men" line, and because of that never re-checked.

But anyways, I'm moving on indeed! Here's Lucretia:

Lucretia My Reflection:

"I hear the roar of the big machine
Two worlds and in between
Hot metal and methedrine
I hear empire down

I hear empire down

I hear the roar of the big machine
Two worlds and in between
Love lost, fire at will
Dum-dum bullets and shoot to kill
I hear dive, bombers and
Empire down
Empire down

I hear the sons of the city and dispossessed
Get down, get undressed
Get pretty but you and me
We got the kingdom, we got the key
We got the empire
Now as then
We don’t doubt, we don’t take direction
Lucretia, my reflection, dance the ghost with me

We look hard
We look through
We look hard
To see for real

Such things I hear well they don’t make sense
I don’t see much evidence
I don’t feel
I don’t feel
I don’t feel

Ow ow, ow ow, ow ow, ow ow

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Dum dum dum dum dum change we

A long train held up by page on page
A hard reign held up by rage
Once a railroad
Now it’s done

I hear the roar of the big machine
Two worlds and in between
Hot metal and methedrine
I hear empire down

We got the empire
Now as then
We don’t doubt, we don’t take reflection
Lucretia, my direction, dance the ghost with me

Hahahahaha

Train "


So can anyone tell me if I'm right about "Such things I hear well they don’t make sense" piece, Andrew really had another word between.

Also, during the guitar part, he whispers a few things, of which I could decipher "Dum dum dum dum dum change we" Does he indeed say 'change we" ?

And for the really extreme lyrics fishing:
"Ow ow, ow ow, ow ow, ow ow

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha"

I counted the hahahahaha's :oops: quite sure it was 20x
Also note the comma's between the ow's, you can hear they are in this way.

And finally, before the end:

"Hahahahaha

Train"

I think he said "ha" 5x this time. Bit hard to hear. He also says "Train" in the last seconds of the version I used (short 4:57).

More to come! :)

Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 14:57
by MrChris
When you notice the fnords we can talk some more

Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 16:29
by Petseri
SINsister wrote:Shall this topic be moved then, dear Pets?
No need, rather let us see how long it takes for Tidal to rediscover the lyrics section.

Posted: 30 Apr 2007, 21:03
by robertzombie
I always thought he said "...change me" Sort of makes sense seeing as it follows on from "I don't feel" (if you don't count the improv. in between).

The "ow" sounds more like "no" to me and as far as i can tell it is in fact the word "train" buried between them.
But I always sing:
"...I don't feel,
No, no, no...
So change me".


Even though it's probably wrong, but then again the lyrics for this part have not been made publicly available so it's anyone's guess.

Posted: 01 May 2007, 09:17
by Maisey
Not strictly sisters I know, but..

Something I can never have (I think) fron NIN's Pretty Hate Machine has a whole extra verse in the lyrics sheet that is never actually sung.

Posted: 01 May 2007, 15:42
by GC
When I first heard Lucretia I used too think that he sung "Dance the coast me". It actually makes more sense when put in context with the other lyrics................................................ :roll:

Posted: 01 May 2007, 15:51
by GC
And another thing...

I used too think that the Levellers sung
"one red light and that's your own, that's your own, that's your own"

I thought it was a song about prostituting yourself.

(That's the danger with getting copied tapes without the songtitles.)

Posted: 01 May 2007, 16:14
by Norman Hunter
Too much time, the lot of yer! :lol:

Posted: 01 May 2007, 16:45
by Tidal
I just discovered the lyrics section ;D

Posted: 01 May 2007, 16:55
by Ozpat
Tidal wrote:I just discovered the lyrics section ;D
Congrats.... :lol: :notworthy:

Posted: 01 May 2007, 17:12
by Dr. Moody
have a look here some of these are hilarious
the archive of misheard lyrics....

The Cure: Just Like Heaven

The real lyrics were:
That stole the only girl I loved and drowned her deep inside of me

But I misheard them as:
Stole the only girl I loved and drowned her deep in sodomy

http://www.kissthisguy.com/funny.php

or..Depeche Mode: I Just Can't Get Enough

The real lyrics were:
I just can't get enough
I just can't get enough
I just can't seem to get enough of you.

But I misheard them as:
I just can't get it up
I just can't get it up
I just can't seem to get it up for you. :lol:

Posted: 01 May 2007, 17:22
by Tidal
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :notworthy: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: