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fake autographs

Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 20:30
by xfloorshowx
"signed bootlegs" sold by a frenchman... the signature isn't even close to Von's classic signature, the worst part is that he obviously make some money out of it :eek:

Ghostriderz http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SISTERS-OF-MERCY- ... dZViewItem

Disguised in Black http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SISTERS-OF-MERCY- ... dZViewItem

Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 20:35
by Ozpat
:eek: :? :urff:

I don't even think he'd sign bootlegs.

Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 20:37
by Badlander
I have more than 3000 records and 600-700 are signed by many artists meet in Paris before or after their show.
He doesn't say the records were signed by those who made them. :innocent: :lol:

Re: fake autographs

Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 20:42
by sisterstekland
xfloorshowx wrote: sold by a frenchman
:innocent: :lol: :lol:

but there is plenty sign by :von: on ebay, this guy went to a gig with TSOM vinyls flight case and ask :von: to sign all :lol: :lol:

any pics to prove it :lol: :lol:

Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 21:47
by lachert
omg :eek:
this is terrible :?
call the police!
:lol:

Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 22:06
by Dark
lachert wrote:call the police!
:lol:
Run and get the fire brigade
Get the fire brigade
See the buildings start to really burn!

..oops, sorry, regressed into psychedelia there. As you were... :oops: :lol:

Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 22:07
by mh
I've much the same sig on a copy of Obscure in Darkness (Frankfurt 85) - in pen on the inner sleeve - that I bought years ago. Luckily I didn't pay anything over the odds for it, but it does show that it's been going on for years now. :evil:

Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 23:14
by paint it black
Ozpat wrote::eek: :? :urff:

I don't even think he'd sign bootlegs.
he's signed loads of bootlegs :innocent:

the second one looks fairly close to me. possibly the E is a wee bit too short :?

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 09:35
by markfiend
I think the sigs look OK. The second one is almost definitely fine. :?:

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 11:54
by taylor
>I think the sigs look OK. The second one is almost definitely fine.

have you ever seen an original ones ?

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 11:57
by Ozpat
paint it black wrote:
Ozpat wrote::eek: :? :urff:

I don't even think he'd sign bootlegs.
he's signed loads of bootlegs :innocent:
Was waiting for it... :lol: :lol:

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 12:16
by markfiend
taylor wrote:>I think the sigs look OK. The second one is almost definitely fine.

have you ever seen an original ones ?
A couple. Plus there's the printed one on the sleeve to Some Girls Wander to compare

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 13:15
by EvilBastard
lachert wrote:call the police!
Call the church!

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 13:56
by taylor
>Plus there's the printed one on the sleeve to Some Girls Wander to compare

look very different to the sgwbm ones, isnt it ?

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 14:02
by mh
Would it be an idea to put some scans of known genuine autographs into the imagebank, just so folks can have a reference to compare with when thinking about whether or not to buy something like this?

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Edit: Incidentally, I've a signed copy of Gary's Pretty Black Dots sampler. Is this the norm or did I get something different there?

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 15:17
by lachert
this is my only one, on first page of "crime and punishment":
Image

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 16:08
by _emma_
This one looks as if he'd been seriously intoxicated :lol:

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 16:14
by Obviousman
mh wrote:Would it be an idea to put some scans of known genuine autographs into the imagebank, just so folks can have a reference to compare with when thinking about whether or not to buy something like this?
Or for reference when we'd want to boost the value of our own records :lol:

Kidding, obviously :wink:

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 16:17
by lachert
_emma_ wrote:This one looks as if he'd been seriously intoxicated :lol:
it was 2 hours after krakow gig. he was tired. and my scanner dosn't work properly at last ;D

Re: fake autographs

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 16:24
by dummkopf
sisterstekland wrote:
xfloorshowx wrote: sold by a frenchman
:innocent: :lol: :lol:

but there is plenty sign by :von: on ebay, this guy went to a gig with TSOM vinyls flight case and ask :von: to sign all :lol: :lol:

any pics to prove it :lol: :lol:
come on now, you wouldn't really expect him to spend 3 hours taking pictures just to prove something, would you :lol:

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 16:32
by markfiend
FWIW IMO all these signature / autographs (including the SGWBM sample) lie within a reasonable range for being genuine.

OK I'm not a handwriting expert. But a signature is a lot harder to do a convincing fake of than it looks. Just try for yourselves...

Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 16:52
by Nic
paint it black wrote: the second one looks fairly close to me. possibly the E is a wee bit too short :?
The end part of Eldritch in the first one looks spot on to me.
I have a couple of signed original albums.