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Posted: **28 Jul 2007, 09:04**

Yup - more politicking.

This is a link to an e-petition to prevent the BBC from making its iPlayer on-demand television service available to Windows users only, and instruct the corporation to provide its service for other operating systems (e.g. Apple Macs and Linux).

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/iplayer/

Petition can be signed by UK citizens or residents only (Or, if you're an expatriate, you're in an overseas territory, a Crown dependency or in the Armed Forces without a postcode)

Deadline to sign up by: 20 August 2007
Signatures so far: 12,763

Posted: **28 Jul 2007, 11:00**

Deadline to sign up by: 20 August 2007 â€“ Signatures: 12,794

Posted: **30 Jul 2007, 09:26**

Signed.

Posted: **30 Jul 2007, 11:59**

Posted: **30 Jul 2007, 12:30**

Deadline to sign up by: 20 August 2007 â€“ Signatures: 13,544

I just registered & that jazz & get all the way through before it realises I am in Hungary & tells me I can't download the programs

WTF is the point of slingining it up on the interweb when you can only use it inside the UK anyway?
Might as well watch the fcukin' telly when the prog's on, or record it.

Posted: **30 Jul 2007, 12:33**

possible workaround?

mac users: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/

and linux users: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/

based on 'wine' - the windows emulator

Posted: **30 Jul 2007, 12:38**

Why would you want a Windoze emulator though? *shudder*

Posted: **30 Jul 2007, 12:48**

markfiend wrote:Why would you want a Windoze emulator though? *shudder*

its like a windows 'shell' emulator more than anything. you dont have to get your hands dirty with the windows desktop or gui - you just install windows apps into a container (called a 'bottle', from its origins as the linux Wine project

)

i mainly use it because it means i can finally run ms visio 2003 on my laptop - there really is no decent mac version of a flowcharting/technical drawing program

also, i use a piece of software called 'enterprise architect' - http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/ - as part of my job and there aint a mac port of that either

crossover means i can run either of them from within macos

an dthey're no less stable than when running natively under windows

Posted: **30 Jul 2007, 13:33**

Ah right I get it.

Posted: **30 Jul 2007, 14:14**

Am in the middle of discussing this with a friend who works for the BBC, I doubt his reply will be any one that might be acceptable to post however

Posted: **30 Jul 2007, 17:47**

13,609 now

Posted: **30 Jul 2007, 18:39**

Quiff Boy wrote:
markfiend wrote:Why would you want a Windoze emulator though? *shudder*
its like a windows 'shell' emulator more than anything. you dont have to get your hands dirty with the windows desktop or gui - you just install windows apps into a container (called a 'bottle', from its origins as the linux Wine project )

i mainly use it because it means i can finally run ms visio 2003 on my laptop - there really is no decent mac version of a flowcharting/technical drawing program

Yup, I run Wine as well (it was a bugger getting it working on 64-bit Linux, but I managed) for a couple of Windows programs - mainly IE so I can test websites in IE without having to use Windows.

Posted: **31 Jul 2007, 00:16**

Quiff Boy wrote: there really is no decent mac version of a flowcharting/technical drawing program

Tried OmniGraffle? A Mac friend is raving about it all the time.

Posted: **23 Aug 2007, 20:26**

An online petition to stop the BBC releasing its iPlayer on Windows XP before other operating systems has been met with a counter petition demanding exactly the opposite.

The first petition, posted on the 10 Downing Street website, demanded that the BBC hold off releasing its much discussed iPlayer until the on-demand TV service was ready to run on all operating systems, as opposed to just XP.

The petition has garnered 16,058 votes, about the same number as want Jeremy Clarkson to be Prime Minister, and well over the 200 required to force the government into a response.

The second petition, currently ticking along with 39 votes, retorted that, "Although the BBC iPlayer will initially only be available to Windows users, it is ridiculous that the BBC should have to delay releasing it on one operating system just because of others who will have to wait a short time."

The BBC has already issued a statement confirming its intention to develop the iPlayer for Apple Macs and Vista, calling it "absolutely on our critical path."

A beta version of the player was released a month ago causing a stir among ISPs who demanded the BBC contribute towards the costs of the extra bandwith the service would require.

todally lerve that phraze mahn "absolutely on our critical path"

Posted: **23 Aug 2007, 23:23**

nowayjose wrote:
Quiff Boy wrote: there really is no decent mac version of a flowcharting/technical drawing program
Tried OmniGraffle? A Mac friend is raving about it all the time.

just downloaded a trial *cough* version of that... have yet to try it though

Posted: **23 Aug 2007, 23:24**

James Blast wrote:
An online petition to stop the BBC releasing its iPlayer on Windows XP before other operating systems has been met with a counter petition demanding exactly the opposite.

The first petition, posted on the 10 Downing Street website, demanded that the BBC hold off releasing its much discussed iPlayer until the on-demand TV service was ready to run on all operating systems, as opposed to just XP.

The petition has garnered 16,058 votes, about the same number as want Jeremy Clarkson to be Prime Minister, and well over the 200 required to force the government into a response.

The second petition, currently ticking along with 39 votes, retorted that, "Although the BBC iPlayer will initially only be available to Windows users, it is ridiculous that the BBC should have to delay releasing it on one operating system just because of others who will have to wait a short time."

The BBC has already issued a statement confirming its intention to develop the iPlayer for Apple Macs and Vista, calling it "absolutely on our critical path."

A beta version of the player was released a month ago causing a stir among ISPs who demanded the BBC contribute towards the costs of the extra bandwith the service would require.
todally lerve that phraze mahn "absolutely on our critical path"

which bit though? vista or mac?

10-1 they do the vista version first

Posted: **23 Aug 2007, 23:39**

Och Aye! and I can get a legit OmniThingey to you if needed, they came bundled with some stuff we bought and us "creatives" don't use/need pish like that

Posted: **24 Aug 2007, 10:22**

I was going to say, you want to stay away from that and get yourself a copy of Freehand.

Posted: **24 Aug 2007, 14:37**

FreeHand est morte

Posted: **24 Aug 2007, 15:46**

I know. I'm still using MX though.

Have to say, I'm starting to get the hang of InDesign these days...

Posted: **24 Aug 2007, 15:52**

can't get to grips with InDesign and Illustraitor (sic) still I do everything in FH and Quark XPress 7.3 with a bit of PS and lashings of Acrobat Distiller

Posted: **24 Aug 2007, 17:53**

Don't like 'Illustraitor' either - one thing I like about InDesign is that you can import .psd files, and distill straight out of it. Even flightcase it.

Posted: **24 Aug 2007, 17:55**

I only have PS to play with... I'm clueless anyway, though.

Posted: **24 Aug 2007, 18:15**

leave it to the Big Boys girlie!

Posted: **24 Aug 2007, 18:43**

Watch it, Blast!

GRRRRRRR.

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