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Trouble on Black Planet

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 16:39
by Tidal
I have been experiencing problems with Black Planet since day 1 I learned of the Sisters. Today I have decided I want it to end, since I have been trying to solve them in various ways for over a year.

During my first few days as someone that knew the Sisters of Mercy, I scrolled Youtube for Sisters clips after hearing TOL '92 and the connected vid. I found Lucretia, Dominion, This Corrosion, Black Planet, etc..
Initially I liked the Black Planet video version real good; especially the "ooooh oooooh oo-oo" and the sparkling use of guitars.

When I started downloading some tracks I found Black Planet among my hits and listened to it... but instead of hearing the song I was expecting I heard a very differently EQ-ed version that started sounding very low and heavy after the first few beats. It really changed the guitars and the song wasn't nearly as good as the one I used to know. But I never was able to find another version that matchedthat of the video on youtube.

Later I bought First and Last and Always and there, it was back! There I heard the good old version of Black Planet again. But I still couldn't put it in a playlist on my computer as it wasn't a sharable mp3 file. So now I could listen to the song without having to open Youtube every time, but I still couldn't listen to it without having FALAA in my PC and selecting the CD instead of one of my playlists.

After nearly a year, I still haven't been able to download the correct version of Black Planet- and I'm hating it because I really liked the song.
So has anyone had the same problem- and if so, can someone please tell me how to find/get the correct version of Black Planet as an mp3/wma file?

(By the way- I did set the record straight about an old mistake of mine- I lived with Alice for all my time on Heartland without knowing that it was the '93 version- I didn't even know there were two different versions! :oops:Today I'm enjoying the original '82 version, which makes me think about buying SGWBM.
I did visit a record store in the city I live in, but they didn't have TSOM LP's, not even second hand :cry: )

Re: Trouble on Black Planet

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 16:50
by 6FeetOver
Tidal wrote:Today I'm enjoying the original '82 version, which makes me think about buying SGWBM.
Some of my fave Sissies tunes of all time are on SGWBM. You need this album, kiddo. ;D

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 16:57
by Silver_Owl
This all sounds highly confusing. Why can't you just listen to the album version on Itunes or something similar or an old fashioned stereo :?:

I actually thought this thread was about Valerie when I first read the title - for anybody who knows her... :innocent:

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 17:20
by mh
Or why not just rip the CD using pretty much any freely available CD ripper?

PS: congrats, Tidal, you have just discovered the old problem with the infamous "Japanese mixes" (which were the only versions of the album available on CD up until last year...)

Re: Trouble on Black Planet

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 20:07
by Nixon
SINsister wrote:
Tidal wrote:Today I'm enjoying the original '82 version, which makes me think about buying SGWBM.
Some of my fave Sissies tunes of all time are on SGWBM. You need this album, kiddo. ;D
I agree, Some Girls Wander by Mistake is absolutely essential, and probably my most played Sisters CD. :)

Re: Trouble on Black Planet

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 22:31
by Badass
Tidal wrote: Today I have decided I want it to end, since I have been trying to solve them in various ways for over a year.

-its about time dude...!

Later I bought First and Last and Always.....

-good thing you did!

But I still couldn't put it in a playlist on my computer as it wasn't a sharable mp3 file.

-they have computers these days, where you can import cd's to your harddisc!

Today I'm enjoying the original '82 version, which makes me think about buying SGWBM.

-what is there to think about, just do it!

I did visit a record store in the city I live in, but they didn't have TSOM LP's, not even second hand :cry: )

-change the city you live in!!

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 22:52
by Tidal
Perhaps I'll enjoy the really old stuff (pre-Body and Soul) more if I listen to this compilation. But A Slight Case of Overbombing at first sight of the playlist really struck me as- something that Radiojamaica told me about- a compilation of songs Eldritch thinks are hís big rock hits, because Radiojamaica told me he thought :von: in fact doesn't wanna make carefully designed, emotional or dark music, but be a big fat rock star :urff: ;D
Which lead me to think of ASCOO- most of the songs on that are Vision thing rock stuff (not Something Fast, Ribbons or I Was Wrong :roll: which are more emotional), the Sisters' more poppy songs (Body and Soul, Walk Away, No Time to Cry, Under the Gun) and their really big fat hits (TOL '92, Dominion, This Corrosion, Lucretia my Reflection). Whether this is because Eldritch think these are his best or because he think tis is what the general public will like best puzzles me...

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 22:54
by lazarus corporation
Are you saying you've never heard the Reptile House EP?

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 23:11
by robertzombie
dun-dun-dun!

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 23:13
by 6FeetOver
I don't own ASCOO. :von:

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 23:15
by robertzombie
dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun!... dun!

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 23:18
by 6FeetOver
HA! Pfffffft. Several of my least favorite Sissies tunes appear on that album... :innocent:

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 23:26
by Tidal
Sorry, what's dun-dun-dun- and why are you Lazarus asking whether I've heard the Reptile House EP- which I have- maybe you mean that Eldo can't want to be a rocker if he makes stuff like that- but maybe he was still in his exploritory phase?

I think ASCOO just sounds too commercial, too cheap, for me, as a whole.

SGWBM is exactly the opposite- but this one as of yet sounds too rough, too gravelly for me. I have yet to begin to appreciate Andy's early years...

Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 23:28
by lazarus corporation
I just thought that maybe you hadn't heard the Reptile House because you didn't have SGWBM - in which case you would have been in for a real treat.

But you've already heard it so you know that. Best 12" of vinyl ever pressed.

Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 00:11
by Silver_Owl
lazarus corporation wrote:I just thought that maybe you hadn't heard the Reptile House because you didn't have SGWBM - in which case you would have been in for a real treat.

But you've already heard it so you know that. Best 12" of vinyl ever pressed.
:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: Wise words, oh sooth sayer. :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

And I don't own ASCOO either. :von:

Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 00:12
by 6FeetOver
I've nothing to play any vinyl *on* - so I own exactly none of it. THAT'S worthy of a dun-dun-duuuuuuuuun, if there ever was one... :( meh.

Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 01:09
by Dark
No excuse. I bought Gift nearly a year before I had a record player. ;)
I had about 10 records by the time I got one :lol:

Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 01:12
by 6FeetOver
The records and the player to play 'em on will have to wait until I'm ensconced somewhere that's *not* where I am right now...

Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 01:31
by weebleswobble
SINsister wrote:The records and the player to play 'em on will have to wait until I'm ensconced somewhere that's *not* where I am right now...
The toilet? :eek: :lol:

Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 01:37
by 6FeetOver
Erm, no, sorry weebs, that's not what I meant. Erse! :lol: :P

Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 06:39
by Ozpat
Tidal wrote: Whether this is because Eldritch think these are his best or because he think tis is what the general public will like best puzzles me...
Or because the record company made this decision for him...

Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 09:51
by markfiend
Hom_Corleone wrote:And I don't own ASCOO either. :von:
Nor me.

Posted: 24 Aug 2007, 13:50
by psichonaut
I had copies of the first EP since the 80's, i bought SGWBM some years ago just because my copies were broken.
about FALAA....i love the scratches of my vinyl (bought in 86)....but when my Lp player's broke i need to buy it on CD....and Black Planet don't looks the same
ASCOO bought 2 years ago listened twice
...Floodland once (bought in 88 ) ;D
Napalm gods,Darks Were in Milan and Gimme Shelter are my favourite

Posted: 24 Aug 2007, 14:15
by Dr. Moody
you've only listened to floodland once ? :eek:

Posted: 24 Aug 2007, 14:41
by Dark
Once is enough.