Heartland

Article by Tom Hodgkinson (aka 'The Outsider' & Editor of 'The Idler') in Sunday's 'Seven' (p.6) - supplement to The Sunday Telegraph (19/08/07) ...

Comments please?!?

Personally I quite like: Staring at the Wall/Ceiling/Clouds ...

i have no idea why someone would watch television. People should have their own lives and make their own choises...plus regarding this, all the series you people want to watch are nothing, nothing at all, but propaganda, and this is a fact and not a matter of opinion.
i've no idea why ppl spend their time with entertainment, either.

And i can't tell you the number of hours i've spent this summer lying down on my back in the forest staring at the clouds.

Music is a form of entertainment too, dei...

Actually, music can be either art or entertainment, no?

Or both - even at the same time, n'est-ce pas?

itnAklipse wrote:And i can't tell you the number of hours i've spent this summer lying down on my back in the forest staring at the clouds.

That sounds incredibly lovely, actually...

SIN: In a sense, but in that case 'entertaining' loses it's meaning...i mean, i consider entertainment as something to pass time with comfortably. Whilst doing something purposeful is never boring, it can be challenging and painful and difficult, which are not hallmarks of entertainment. But nor does it need to be that all the time.

That sounds incredibly lovely, actually...

It's been the only real times of peace in my life this summer But even if it wasn't, i'd have done the same, it's ... incredibly entertaining With either music or the sounds of nature.

Interesting...for me, being "entertained" means that I'm somehow interacting with the medium at hand...actively involved, rather than passively absorbing. Otherwise, I'm just bored.

Active interaction doesn't occur in entertainment in my experience Like watching football. But nor is playing football much else but entertainment regardless of the active involvement.

Yet i consider myself active (though not interacting) when staring at the clouds. Well, perhaps there's nothing more active than communing with Infinity to me.

At any rate, active/passive are decidedly human concepts and one really should get passed both of them. Be both at the same time without being either. (And the fact that for the observer it would look like one is at times passive and at times active, doesn't change what's really going on).

I sure as hell would rather read a seed catalogue than the Telegraph!

Looked up the article... there's not really much you can say against it, television is pretty much wall to wall s**t. I am sitting now with the usual mid-morning succession of programmes about people buying houses on, that sort of thing really f**king drives me mad. So much of the television schedule seems to consist of people doing the most mundane things... if you want to watch people argue, scratch their arses and talk about having bought their new house, just sit on a park bench for a while and you'll get it for free.

try to watch "my sweet sixteen", i watched it on MTV sometimes....i think you can't watch tv after that

itnAklipse wrote:i have no idea why someone would watch television. People should have their own lives and make their own choises..

People who watch TV are making their own choices and do have their own lives...........they choose to watch TV.

People watch telly because sometimes they have Doctor Who on. Easy, huh?

itnAklipse wrote:i have no idea why someone would watch television. People should have their own lives and make their own choises...plus regarding this, all the series you people want to watch are nothing, nothing at all, but propaganda, and this is a fact and not a matter of opinion.

So I assume that watching a documentary series on the complete works of Kierkegaard is less nobel than reading a book about it?

If TV is propoganda, so is the printed word.

Motz wrote:a documentary series on the complete works of Kierkegaard

Not ITV then..

and what about football? entertainment, torture and interaction all in one.

emilystrange wrote:and what about football? entertainment, torture and interaction all in one.

....and competition, happiness, sorrow....

dismay, anger, passion and ridicule

itnAklipse wrote:Active interaction doesn't occur in entertainment in my experience

you are a droid

not even in sex?

Muahahaha!

itnAklipse wrote:And i can't tell you the number of hours i've spent this summer lying down on my back in the forest staring at the clouds.

pished again

I don't need to be pished to enjoy that sort of thing, dear Jam~es...

itnAklipse wrote:i have no idea why someone would watch television. People should have their own lives and make their own choises...plus regarding this, all the series you people want to watch are nothing, nothing at all, but propaganda, and this is a fact and not a matter of opinion.
i've no idea why ppl spend their time with entertainment, either.

And i can't tell you the number of hours i've spent this summer lying down on my back in the forest staring at the clouds.

That's just the response I was hoping for! - Respect Matey!

SINsister wrote:Or both - even at the same time, n'est-ce pas?

Synesthesia?!? ... Shall we change your name?!?