Heartland

is to be the new guitarist for Claytown Troupe when they play live. (hopefully end of 07)

o_O

I didn't know that Claytown Troupe were still going.

markfiend wrote:o_O

I didn't know that Claytown Troupe were still going.

Semi going played several gigs over the last few years the most recent was the Devonshire Camden it is just Rick and Christian from the original lineup now, but they are supposed to be playing a support slot (not sure if it is tour or selected dates) very soon and Ben has learnt the whole "through the veil" album.

OK, cool.

Come to think of it, I dare say that if someone posted on a Claytown Troupe fan forum that Ben toured last year with the Sisters, you might get a reply saying something like:

o_O

I didn't know that the Sisters were still going

markfiend wrote:OK, cool.

Come to think of it, I dare say that if someone posted on a Claytown Troupe fan forum that Ben toured last year with the Sisters, you might get a reply saying something like:

o_O

I didn't know that the Sisters were still going

Semi going played several gigs over the last few years the most recent was Zottegem it is just Andrew and the Doktor from the original lineup now.

Doktor wasn't even in the original lineup.

Dark wrote:Doktor wasn't even in the original lineup.

oh he was, Andrew just couldn't find a 13A fuse.

good for ben

Probably it is not a good sign for the sisters, if Ben spends some time with another band, it means that the sisters are not active writing new song and as well they don't work on live shows with a new set list ...

doctoravalanche wrote:the sisters are not active writing new song and as well they don't work on live shows with a new set list ...

... which is hardly a surprise.

markfiend wrote:... which is hardly a surprise.

Not a surprise indeed but another disappointment for sure ...

For sure.

Here was me thinking it was Ben Gunn...

>Not a surprise indeed but another disappointment for sure ...

no at all

You know, there's something vaguely pathetic about how much time we spend thinking about the new record.

While I wouldn't place any bets on it, I'm inclined to think it won't ever come (but I'd buy it if it did). Von says he wants a large label deal, but he could probably make more money doing an independent pressing and selling it himself via Itunes downloads and at shows. If, as has been claimed, the record could be completed in a few months, there's no reason not to at least test the water with an independent single. It doesn't have to be Summer, it could be anything--a short print run of a three-to-five song single would likely recoup its money very quickly. Given the size of the crowds on the last tour, a larger print run could probably do the same. Why not? I can only assume it's a degree of laziness. The internet allows independent musicians to cut out the middlemen, and thus maintain greater control over their product (which Von surely wants) and to reap a greater percentage of the profits (again, which Von surely wants). A band of this stature would seem to have more to gain than to lose in such a venture. The Sisters could be a cutting edge band again, taking advantage of the new media, etc, but instead, Von allegedly wants to walk with the record label dinosaurs. The industry has changed, and his history of playing by his own rules will prevent nearly any label from wanting to get into bed with him; he can, however, make a go of it independently and probably add to his retirement fund pretty quickly. If he doesn't want to, that's fine--but he should probably eliminate the "Record News" section of the website. It's gone from being hopeful, to being funny, to being, frankly, just sad.*








*Seriously, if you were a record label A&R man, would you look at a website full of empty promises and say "Sure, sign 'em up!"? I rather doubt it. And let's not even think about http://www.merciful-release.com --what is that, "Site Under Construction" for nigh on ten years? Ever get the feeing you've been cheated?

sultan2075 wrote:While I wouldn't place any bets on it, I'm inclined to think it won't ever come (but I'd buy it if it did). Von says he wants a large label deal, but he could probably make more money doing an independent pressing and selling it himself via Itunes downloads and at shows. If, as has been claimed, the record could be completed in a few months, there's no reason not to at least test the water with an independent single. It doesn't have to be Summer, it could be anything--a short print run of a three-to-five song single would likely recoup its money very quickly. Given the size of the crowds on the last tour, a larger print run could probably do the same. Why not? I can only assume it's a degree of laziness. The internet allows independent musicians to cut out the middlemen, and thus maintain greater control over their product (which Von surely wants) and to reap a greater percentage of the profits (again, which Von surely wants). A band of this stature would seem to have more to gain than to lose in such a venture. The Sisters could be a cutting edge band again, taking advantage of the new media, etc, but instead, Von allegedly wants to walk with the record label dinosaurs. The industry has changed, and his history of playing by his own rules will prevent nearly any label from wanting to get into bed with him; he can, however, make a go of it independently and probably add to his retirement fund pretty quickly. If he doesn't want to, that's fine--but he should probably eliminate the "Record News" section of the website. It's gone from being hopeful, to being funny, to being, frankly, just sad.*

100 % APPROVED

Can't say I'd blame Ben. He's young, and an active band is definitely a more attractive proposition.

Does this mean The Sisters can get a proper lead guitarist in for the next tour?

(sorry, I just don't think his 'style' of playing fits the band / music at all)

Agreed Dave.

*widdle wyeaah wuwuwu* Isn't really the Sisters is it?

Planet Dave wrote:Does this mean The Sisters can get a proper lead guitarist in for the next tour?

(sorry, I just don't think his 'style' of playing fits the band / music at all)

I think he is helping out a band he admires as a hired hand! I doubt very much that the dates with CT will be many as CR (lead singer) has a very busy day job. Agreed not sure if his style suits the girls but do like the new intro for FALAA.

Bens always had loads of different projects on the go, and hes been jamming with CTT for a while, so I hear Ben and Bens Mate got back a while both being from Bristol way.

I do know that TSOM is his No1 Priority.

Matthew

Planet Dave wrote:Does this mean The Sisters can get a proper lead guitarist in for the next tour?

(sorry, I just don't think his 'style' of playing fits the band / music at all)

Humm, I disagree, Robochrist and Ben are by far the best thing thats happened to the sisters for years sisters are a rock band, so want a rocking pair of guitar players, which they now have!

the-happening wrote:

markfiend wrote:o_O

I didn't know that Claytown Troupe were still going.

Semi going played several gigs over the last few years the most recent was the Devonshire Camden .

that was the warm up practice gig, after that they did

Southampton Joiners
London Borderline
Whitby
Camden Underworld
and lastly The Putny Half Moon.

if you look here you will see a vid I shot at whitby. (I did film every gig they did in 2004)

Need you now - New Song

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CNDJaBUrg

Matthew

allfear wrote:

Planet Dave wrote:Does this mean The Sisters can get a proper lead guitarist in for the next tour?

(sorry, I just don't think his 'style' of playing fits the band / music at all)

Humm, I disagree, Robochrist and Ben are by far the best thing thats happened to the sisters for years sisters are a rock band, so want a rocking pair of guitar players, which they now have!

Adam was a brilliant guitarist and delivered great shows with the Sisters.
So is Ben, so does Ben. So is Chris, So does Chris.
And the others. Andrew has proven a lucky hand at finding musiscians.

So you play guitar in TSOM then you make room to play guitar for the reformed & no one cares Claytown Troupe.

What a f**king absence of style and credibility.