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credits

Posted: 29 Sep 2007, 17:34
by Tidal
Simple, but a bit extensive question.
Who wrote the lyrics, who wrote the music to all Sisters songs?

From the FALAA booklet I know that
words:
Andrew Eldritch: all, except Gary Marx: Poison Door
music:
That Guitarist: Black Planet, Walk Away, A Rock and a Hard Place, Marian, Blood Money
Gary Marx: First and Last and Always, Nine While Nine, Amphetamine Logic, Some Kind of Stranger, Poison Door
Andrew Eldritch: Long Train, Bury Me Deep, On The Wire
Craig Adams+Gary Marx+That Guitarist: No Time to Cry
Craig Adams+Andrew Eldritch+ That Guitarist: Possession

but unfortunately the Floodland issue doesn't contain the credits in the booklet and of the rest I simply have no idea.

EDIT: I forgot to say but I still don't understand how things went Gift-Floodland.. Did :von: just gather Vega, Ray and Fox and say "kkthxbai" and kicked them out to make Floodland? Why didn't they stay now that they had a band?

Posted: 29 Sep 2007, 18:51
by Bartek
Mr. Tidal. one simple question: who was the member of the Sisters of Mercy during recording "Floodland" ?
a: Mr. Taylor and Mrs. Morrison .
and now try to figure out who from that couple wrote music and lyrics for all "Floodland" songs ?
yes ! Mr. Taylor

Posted: 29 Sep 2007, 19:05
by Bartek
furthermore, quick look on the booklet of the re-issued "floodland" page # 15 (not including "cover" of booklet") right to the "THANK YOU", first line
"Floodland ... written by Andrew Eldritch except Emma(...)
:wink:

Posted: 29 Sep 2007, 20:43
by robertzombie
The Vision Thing songs were written by Eldritch and Bruhn, right?

Posted: 29 Sep 2007, 20:50
by Badlander
robertzombie wrote:The Vision Thing songs were written by Eldritch and Bruhn, right?
I suppose.
That was more of less the two of them in the studio.

Posted: 29 Sep 2007, 20:52
by Bartek
and Jim Steinman :wink:

Posted: 29 Sep 2007, 21:27
by Syberberg
Vision Thing:
All songs written by Eldritch except "Detonation Boulevard", "When You Don't See Me", "Doctor Jeep" wirtten by Eldritch/Bruhn and "More" written by Eldritch/Steinman.
From SGWBM:
All songs written by Eldritch except, "Floorshow" Eldritch/Marx/Adams, "Phantom" Marx/Adams, "Heartland" and "Anaconda" Eldritch/Marx, "Watch" and "Home Of The Hit-Men" Marx.
Hope that clears everything up for you Tidal.

Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 09:14
by Tidal
Okay thanks! That clears up a lot, but still leaves...

TOL '92
Under the Gun
You Could Be the One
Ozymandias
Sandstorm
Untitled
Rain From Heaven
Finland Red Egypt White
Giving Ground
Colours
Jihad
Afterhours
Train
Body and Soul

Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 09:27
by Depprocksfarfar
Under the gun is written by Hughes/Seeman/Eldritch

You could be the one is written by Eldritch/Bruhn

The rest by Eldtritch

Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 09:30
by Ozpat
Depprocksfarfar wrote: Hugues
Hughes

Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 12:24
by smiscandlon
Ozpat wrote:
Depprocksfarfar wrote: Hugues
Hughes
Subline: In the credits of the only new song "Under the Gun" you name two unknown persons. Who are `Hughes' and `Seeman'?

Andrew: `Hughes' is a man and `Seeman' a woman. They both are songwriters and wrote ten years ago a song called `Two Worlds Apart'. With out my contribution `Under The Gun' is `Two Worlds Apart'. I've practically taken over the song from them.

Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 14:17
by Tidal
Depprocksfarfar wrote:Under the gun is written by Hughes/Seeman/Eldritch

You could be the one is written by Eldritch/Bruhn

The rest by Eldtritch
Does that mean

TOL '92
Ozymandias
Sandstorm
Untitled
Rain From Heaven
Finland Red Egypt White
Giving Ground
Colours
Jihad
Afterhours
Train
Body and Soul


Are all by Eldritch, both music and words?

(BTW: found Two Worlds Apart)

SONG -------------------ARTIST ----------WRITERS
TWO WORLDS APART BILLIE HUGHES SEEMAN - HUGHES
PRODUCER -------LABEL --------------------TERRITORY
HUGHES SEEMAN PONY CANYON WARNER JAPAN SE ASIA

Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 19:25
by Syberberg
Tidal wrote: Does that mean

TOL '92
Ozymandias
Sandstorm
Untitled
Rain From Heaven
Finland Red Egypt White
Giving Ground
Colours
Jihad
Afterhours
Train
Body and Soul


Are all by Eldritch, both music and words?
Yes. Except for Finland Red, Egypt White. The author is unknown as its lyrics are from the operations manual for the AK-47.

BTW, out of curiosity, what makes you think that TOL '92 is any different, musically and lyrically, to the original? It's a re-recording of the same song. (The same goes for Train/Long Train(1984) and Alice '93).

Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 19:36
by Tidal
Thanks! Then this finishes the official list. Thank you all!

@Syber: I just went past all songs that weren't mentioned yet and put them in but forgot that TOL is same as TOL '83. I guess Alice '93 struck me as more of a "remake" than TOL.

Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 19:56
by mh
One last complication is that Craig has in the past claimed that he's due a credit for ToL (no reference available for that at the mo), and may even be due credit for some of the Reptile House material (http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cl ... html#misc3).

Posted: 01 Oct 2007, 08:25
by Syberberg
Tidal wrote:Thanks! Then this finishes the official list. Thank you all!

@Syber: I just went past all songs that weren't mentioned yet and put them in but forgot that TOL is same as TOL '83. I guess Alice '93 struck me as more of a "remake" than TOL.
I guess you're enthusiasm got the better of you, huh? Anyway, glad to have been of assistance.

I feel the same way about Alice '93. I'm still trying to make my mind up about which version I prefer.

@mh Apparently Craig was seriously peeved about the credits on SGWBM missing him out.

Posted: 01 Oct 2007, 09:41
by MrChris
I thought the music to Body and Soul was Hussey's first contribution? If not, I'll need another explanation of its general crapness...

Posted: 01 Oct 2007, 13:52
by Syberberg
MrChris wrote:I thought the music to Body and Soul was Hussey's first contribution? If not, I'll need another explanation of its general crapness...
Just checked the label on the Body and Soul EP: Written/Produced by Andrew Eldritch.

Posted: 01 Oct 2007, 14:10
by Quiff Boy
MrChris wrote:I thought the music to Body and Soul was Hussey's first contribution? If not, I'll need another explanation of its general crapness...
ditto, and ditto :urff: :lol:

Posted: 01 Oct 2007, 15:50
by road_kill
Well, it's Andy in the video with the guitar :lol: :eek: :lol:

Posted: 01 Oct 2007, 20:02
by Ozpat
Andrew once stated he rewrote Two Worlds Apart into Under The Gun.
Some people say it is a cover....kind of.

Posted: 02 Oct 2007, 16:20
by eastmidswhizzkid
not at home right now so unable to check but from memory i was sure that the 12" label to No Time To Cry credited Blood Money and Bury Me Deep solely to Eldritch. :?

Posted: 02 Oct 2007, 16:28
by Syberberg
eastmidswhizzkid wrote:not at home right now so unable to check but from memory i was sure that the 12" label to No Time To Cry credited Blood Money and Bury Me Deep solely to Eldritch. :?
Just had a look at my copy: Blood Money - Eldritch/Hussey and Bury Me Deep - Eldritch.

Posted: 02 Oct 2007, 16:30
by eastmidswhizzkid
:notworthy: thanks.

Posted: 02 Oct 2007, 16:34
by Syberberg
eastmidswhizzkid wrote::notworthy: thanks.
No worries mate. :notworthy: