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Mother Russia
Posted: 15 Oct 2007, 19:05
by Silver_Owl
I was thinking t'other day about the imagery in Floodland and asked myself the question...
Is
politically biased to the Mother Russia he mentions or is it the imagery itself which fascinates him?
It's probably been covered before, but hell, what hasn't on here?
Just idle time passing really but an interesting thought all the same...or so I thought.
What say you fellow Heartlanders?
Posted: 15 Oct 2007, 23:03
by psichonaut
Both things, i presume.
The 80's were the years of starting detente, the cold war with Gorbaciov were going to the end and he couldn't be the one fascinating from USSR and what were hidden behind the "Berlin Wall"
(hope it's understandable)
Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 07:49
by _emma_
He did kind of answer that question in one of the inerviews (can't remember which one, sorry, I'm sure someone here will remember). I think it's both.
Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 08:01
by The Green Lantern
_emma_ wrote:He did kind of answer that question in one of the inerviews (can't remember which one, sorry, I'm sure someone here will remember). I think it's both.
I remember a couple of those interviews, Andrew stating that if the time came and he had to choose "I'd be on the side of the russians. But that doesn't mean I think Stalin was a good guy." And Mother Russia came about when Andrew found himself in central Europe during the Chernobyl disaster, with the radioactive rain and everything. "It's part of my hate/hate relationship with America. I just had the idea of all them huddled in their mobile homes while Mother Russia rained down on them. They deserve it. I suppose the song is really about the prostitution of Europe by the Americans."
So, there.
Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 17:35
by Silver_Owl
Thanks for your thoughts guys.
Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 21:37
by psichonaut
Hom_Corleone wrote:Thanks for your thoughts guys.
now ask the reason why was printed this cover
i always thought that it doesn't means nothing
Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 22:00
by Silver_Owl
psichonaut wrote:Hom_Corleone wrote:Thanks for your thoughts guys.
now ask the reason why was printed this cover
i always thought that it doesn't means nothing
It's
square and it involves
red.
Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 22:03
by Ozpat
Hom_Corleone wrote:psichonaut wrote:Hom_Corleone wrote:Thanks for your thoughts guys.
now ask the reason why was printed this cover
i always thought that it doesn't means nothing
It's
square and it involves
red.
You beat me to it
Steve!
Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 08:40
by limur
Hom_Corleone wrote:psichonaut wrote:Hom_Corleone wrote:Thanks for your thoughts guys.
now ask the reason why was printed this cover
i always thought that it doesn't means nothing
It's
square and it involves
red.
Dunno...
But I've been wondering why the LP Gatefold cover is different to the original CD issue, but the same as the new digipak;
Any ideas?
Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 09:45
by Syberberg
Somekind of theme, perhaps?
Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 10:06
by Bartek
let's say it's back on topic.
i can't understand why people who didn't lived under the red flag are so fascinating and adore this system ? i know that for mr. Taylor ussr was "natural" ally against usa, but if i could chose under which regime i should live it certainly be "US & A".
maybe the idea of communism sounds good, but i never gonna work. equality and other slogans are just a words and nothing more.
yes, i know, the answer is my question
Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 10:16
by markfiend
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" makes for some strange political bedfellows.
Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 10:37
by Bartek
that was i thinking about when a writing >>"natural" ally <<
Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 10:58
by markfiend
Thought so.
Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 20:20
by psichonaut
Bartoszek wrote:let's say it's back on topic.
i can't understand why people who didn't lived under the red flag are so fascinating and adore this system ? i know that for mr. Taylor ussr was "natural" ally against usa, but if i could chose under which regime i should live it certainly be "US & A".
maybe the idea of communism sounds good, but i never gonna work. equality and other slogans are just a words and nothing more.
yes, i know, the answer is my question
In USA? it's better Mars
Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 21:44
by nowayjose
and that considering that in the 80ies the US were probably more liberal than the neofascist secured homeland they appear to be turning into now.
Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 22:19
by Bartek
@ psichonaut:
believe my few months or even weeks living in one of people republic country and you gonna change you opinion, for sure.
i was born when communism was dying, but well known story and that what i remember it's enough to hate this system.
Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 23:13
by psichonaut
Bartoszek wrote:@ psichonaut:
believe my few months or even weeks living in one of people republic country and you gonna change you opinion, for sure. :urff:
i was born when communism was dying, but well known story and that what i remember it's enough to hate this system.
so i know History....and i think i didn't like to live in USSR, but not even in the USA.....Italy isn't a good place for living in (and for explain the reasons i need a thread), but it's better than both of the above
Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 07:54
by _emma_
Bartoszek wrote: i was born when communism was dying, but well known story and that what i remember it's enough to hate this system.
Oh come on, if only you could remember the taste of oranges and chocolate, the joy of buying new pair of jeans from Pewex, or the emotions experienced while watching a rock videoclip on TV, you might change your mind. Life was full of strong feelings back then. Now everything is so colourful that we can't see the colours anymore.
Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 09:25
by Tidal
deprivation enhances experience... that doesn't necessarily mean it's good.
Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 09:55
by Bartek
@ Emma:
you know that your reason is irrational - feelings [ nostalgia ], so i can not say against that.
Posted: 22 Oct 2007, 22:33
by pikkrong