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Internet Fraud in Forres.

Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 22:12
by scotty
Some Bastard has helped themselves to over a Grand from my Debit account over the last week :eek: :evil: :evil:
The wee thieving prick was buying Train tickets in France, I'd love to meet the wanker on a dark night :evil: :evil: :evil:

It's funny but "Internet Fraud" was something that happened to others :roll:

Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 22:15
by Ozpat
:eek: .....that's bad Keith! Good you found out!

I have no idea how they do that, always happening "far away" indeed.

Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 22:19
by lazarus corporation
Are you sure it was internet fraud? Could have been a dodgy petrol station or restaurant employee (it's easier for a criminal to scribble down the card details when the card is handed to them through a petrol station service window, than to learn how to hack encrypted files).

Re: Internet Fraud in Forres.

Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 22:19
by Silver_Owl
scotty wrote:Some Bastard has helped themselves to over a Grand from my Debit account over the last week :eek: :evil: :evil:
The wee thieving prick was buying Train tickets in France, I'd love to meet the wanker on a dark night :evil: :evil: :evil:

It's funny but "Internet Fraud" was something that happened to others :roll:
Wanka. :evil: I presume it's no problem to recover the losses from the bank?

How do they do it? Hacking a website you've bought from or something?

Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 22:26
by mh
I'd assume the source was one of LazCorp's suggestions. Someone who worked there and was going on hols to France.

Hopefully that fact that it's a Debit (rather than Credit) card causes you ho hassles with the reclaim, Keith.

Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 23:22
by weebleswobble
CNUT!!!

Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 01:29
by eotunun
Spyware perhaps? Do you do online banking?
Maybe the bank itself got hacked? That happens as well..
They'd never admit that, though.
My fingers are crossed for you getting that money back and getting an occasion to give them erses a richt guid stab. :|

Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 18:06
by scotty
Seems like I'll get all the money back, pheww!!, had to go and get an overdraft foe the first time in my life :evil: to cover my standing orders :roll: .
No idea how the twit/twats got my details, it maybe as Paul said.

Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 18:13
by 6FeetOver
I feel your pain, Keef. I've had my wallet stolen twice now, here in ChiTown; the first time, the tw@t(s) who did it used my credit card to charge a full tank of gas, and then attempted to charge $1K worth of tokens to gamble with at a casino just over the state line. Thankfully, the transaction was rejected. :evil:

Re: Internet Fraud in Forres.

Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 18:27
by Brideoffrankenstein
scotty wrote:Some Bastard has helped themselves to over a Grand from my Debit account over the last week :eek: :evil: :evil:
The wee thieving prick was buying Train tickets in France, I'd love to meet the wanker on a dark night :evil: :evil: :evil:

It's funny but "Internet Fraud" was something that happened to others :roll:
Might not be internet fraud, I paid for an Indian take-away a few years ago on my debit card, and they copied my card number off the receipt they keep and helped themselves to £5,000 (£5,000 that I didn't actually have, plus it was right over Christmas time as well). I remember going to the hole-in-the-wall to get some money to buy some food so I could live to have my card spat back at me!

This happened to 5 other people in my town (and I knew 3 of them!) and it was all traced back to the same Indian restaurant, the money was spent in Bangladesh!

I made a statement to the police, and they searched the premises but theu said they couldn't prove it was them?!

When I phoned up the police the first time to report the crime, I was told "Well Norfolk police can't do anything about this as the crime happened in Bangladesh, you'll have to contact the Bangladeshi police" :lol:

Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 18:31
by 6FeetOver
:eek: That's insane. :evil:

Re: Internet Fraud in Forres.

Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 18:31
by smiscandlon
Brideoffrankenstein wrote:When I phoned up the police the first time to report the crime, I was told "Well Norfolk police can't do anything about this as the crime happened in Bangladesh, you'll have to contact the Bangladeshi police" :lol:
:eek: :lol:

Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 18:34
by Brideoffrankenstein
I was so shocked I said "oh, okay", then thought about it and phoned them straight back telling them that the crime happened in ENGLAND as that was where my card number was stolen and what the hell do I pay my council tax for if this is the kind of service I get from the police?


I was put through straightaway....


ETA - I did get all the money back in the end! :notworthy:

Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 19:33
by Obviousman
Bloody hell Keith :eek:

Good to hear you'll be getting all your money back really. Banks and thieves, the two are very much alike I recently discovered :urff:

Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 20:45
by Karst
Think you're insured if it is above a certain amount.

Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 23:37
by psichonaut
keith.....did you eat in italian restaurants?
in Italy in some restaurant they clone your cards....but it could be a spyware
Fingers crossed

Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 08:37
by the-happening
Around here it is petrol stations that seem to have the worst reputation, listened to a radio phone in and they stated that the crime isn't against the card holder but against the bank / card issuer so the police are unable / won't take any action until the bank / card issuer report it which is nearly never. Can't quite understand that myself.

Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 09:49
by markfiend
Petrol stations have a bad rep around here too. The one closest to us has a hole-in-the-wall machine (Alliance & Leicester so unlikely to be dodgy) so I always get cash out and pay with that rather than paying on my card.

Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 09:54
by smiscandlon
the-happening wrote:listened to a radio phone in and they stated that the crime isn't against the card holder but against the bank / card issuer so the police are unable / won't take any action until the bank / card issuer report it which is nearly never. Can't quite understand that myself.
Because, generally speaking, account terms and conditions usually state that the customer will be protected if fraudulent transactions occur on their account. Although it's the individual who feels the initial 'sting' of having money taken from their account, ultimately it's usually the bank that suffers the loss. In terms of reporting to police, the company has to balance the cost of pursuing each individual case of fraud, with the likelihood of successful prosecution.