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Job Advertising?.

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 20:14
by scotty
I thought it was illegal not to advertise a Job, I mean, is it OK for a Manager to hand out jobs to his cronies, surely they should/must be advertised, even if it's in-house?.............no?.

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 20:21
by boudicca
:| I reckon it's pretty widespread in some fields Keef. Shouldn't be, but probably is...

Re: Job Advertising?.

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 20:22
by Brideoffrankenstein
scotty wrote:I thought it was illegal not to advertise a Job, I mean, is it OK for a Manager to hand out jobs to his cronies, surely they should/must be advertised, even if it's in-house?.............no?.
Is it for a promotion?

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 20:23
by scotty
boudicca wrote::| I reckon it's pretty widespread in some fields Keef. Shouldn't be, but probably is...
I'm going to bring it up at the next Branch Meeting and want to know the in & outs of it, it's either right or wrong, if it's wrong I'm going to stir some shit.............it's not on :evil:

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 20:27
by christophe
never heard of that before, I don't 'think' you have to in Belgium.
someone?

(I know in Belgium the opposite happens, job adverts even though they don’t need anyone. Why? Because its cheaper to publish a job ad instead of making adverts for your company :roll: )

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 20:28
by markfiend
If it's for a new position and not just a promotion, I'd have thought it needs to be advertised.

Re: Job Advertising?.

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 20:29
by scotty
Brideoffrankenstein wrote:
scotty wrote:I thought it was illegal not to advertise a Job, I mean, is it OK for a Manager to hand out jobs to his cronies, surely they should/must be advertised, even if it's in-house?.............no?.
Is it for a promotion?
Sort of, if I had got it it would be promotion but it was a new "specialised" position which I am suitably qualified.

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 20:30
by markfiend
Should have been advertised IMO.

Edit: If they'd offered it to you as a promotion, no advertising necessary. Some other guy is offered it as a completely new role? Dodgy IMO.

How much fuss can you get away with making?

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 20:35
by mh
http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/a ... 71011.html

At least they didn't go through the sham of pretenting to run a competition, holding interviews, and all that malarkey. There's a certain brazen honesty about it that would be kinda admirable if it didn't stink.

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 20:37
by scotty
markfiend wrote:
How much fuss can you get away with making?
I'll tell you next week :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 17:21
by EvilBastard
A lot of companies will put out an ad to satisfy business practice, but there's nothing to say that you have to advertise. In my experience they already know who they want but HR says the dept has to advertise, so they make it impossible for anyone except the person they already chose to fulfill the role - extremely tight criteria for experience and that kind of thing.
It's not illegal, but it's poor practice not to advertise a job externally.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 17:36
by mh
From my own experience of dealing fairly closely with these kind of people is that no matter what the rules/guidelines/procedures say, they end up doing what they want anyway. A lot of the time, they may not even be aware of what it says in the rules/guidelines/procedures.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 19:16
by scotty
I got an answer of sorts from our Intranet Forum :roll:

"It is not a legal requirement that all jobs are advertised however we do endeavour to ensure that our colleagues are aware of the job opportunities available.

There may be occassions where a decision is made not to advertise a position e.g. when there is a need to employ an individual with specialist knowledge. The company will continue to reserve the right to do this.
".

I've asked, "What if the specialist knowlege exists in the Area/Branch/Team?".

The Guy's been employed so I'm just being pedantic, but moral's low enough and things like this don't help, I just want to get my point heard.