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1000 Albums to Hear Before You Die

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 16:02
by EvilBastard
According to The Guardian, anyway. Floodland makes the list.

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 16:23
by Quiff Boy
The Chameleons
Script of the Bridge (1983)
Although commercial success eluded this Greater Manchester quartet, their influence stretches from the Verve to Interpol to Coldplay. This timeless debut justifies the fuss with plangent, intertwining guitars and instantly anthemic songs that yearn for childhood innocence and rage powerfully against the world.


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Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 16:29
by Badlander
No Fields of the Nephilim, but they did pick The Cure's Pornography and Kate Bush's Hounds of Love, so I can't complain. :)

It's incredible the likes of Britney Spears and the Spice Girls still made the cut. After ten years, can't we just agree it was just crap ? Commercially successful crap, but crap nonetheless. :roll:

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 16:35
by mh
Spacemen 3
The Perfect Prescription (1987)

Sonic Boom and Jason "Spaceman" Pierce's mantra was "minimal is maximal" and Spacemen 3's magnum opus took the listener on a long, strange narcotic trip, from the chemical euphoria of Ecstasy Symphony to the opiate daze of Come Down Easy. Drone-rock is rarely so assured, alluring and addictive.
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Edit: and Ladies & Germs is in there too, making J Spaceman an artist who's in it twice!

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 16:55
by James Blast
The Grauniad wrote:Peter Gabriel 4 (1982)
Although it contains the hit single Shock the Monkey, Gabriel's fourth solo album has been overshadowed by his third, the mega-selling So. But it is a pivotal release, marking his first foray into funky world-music grooves, which he has never explored with more energy than he does here.
spot the mistake

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 17:33
by Badlander
So got released in 1986, and it's PG's fifth solo album (not counting live and soundtracks).
But the biggest mistake is that there's no way in the world PG4 is better than PG3. ;D

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Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 17:41
by James Blast
I wasn't accounting for personal taste Eric but you are correct on both counts

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 18:01
by silentNate
They prefer Isn't Aything to Loveless so what do they know :evil:

Gruaniad reader for years- I've spoken to an editor twice to complain and I don't even live in Tunbridge Wells :P

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 18:04
by mh
silentNate wrote:They prefer Isn't Aything to Loveless so what do they know :evil:
Wouldn't complain about that, it's a better LP. :D

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 18:19
by silentNate
mh wrote:
silentNate wrote:They prefer Isn't Anything to Loveless so what do they know :evil:
Wouldn't complain about that, it's a better LP. :D
If anyone knows how I can put this joker on 'ignore' I would be most grateful. :oops:

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 18:19
by Obviousman
This blog isn't too bad either when it comes to 1001 albums, pretty thorough reviews too! (not sure whether he's always right though)

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 20:58
by Tidal
What do they say about Floodland? I can't see it on the site...

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 21:16
by Badlander
Is it because you can't access it or because you can't find it ? :P

Sisters of Mercy
Floodland (1987)
Goth made most sense when taken to extremes, and Sisters of Mercy were its most devout absolutists. Gravel-voiced vocalist Andrew Eldritch scaled new heights of heroic pretension, while the introduction of Meat Loaf producer Jim Steinman on the none-more-black This Corrosion was a marriage made in heaven.

Uncle Eldo's not gonna like it... :roll: :lol: :innocent:

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 23:13
by Petseri
Badlander wrote:So got released in 1986, and it's PG's fifth solo album (not counting live and soundtracks).
But the biggest mistake is that there's no way in the world PG4 is better than PG3. ;D

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Are we ignoring the German versions of the 1980 and 1982 albums? :innocent:

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 23:16
by Nixon
Good to see "The Fall", although I'm surprised that Perverted By Language rated higher than Hex.

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 23:37
by James Blast
Petseri wrote:Are we ignoring the German versions of the 1980 and 1982 albums? :innocent:
well I is, he used to be in a band that were quite good before them, tho' :|

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 23:41
by Petseri
James Blast wrote:
Petseri wrote:Are we ignoring the German versions of the 1980 and 1982 albums? :innocent:
well I is, he used to be in a band that were quite good before them, tho' :|
I still think that you are missing out on some good stuff post-Lamb. I have a sampler (leider ohne deutsche Versionen) if you want a listen. :lol:

Posted: 21 Nov 2007, 23:49
by James Blast
clue me in

Posted: 22 Nov 2007, 09:29
by Obviousman
Petseri wrote:
James Blast wrote:
Petseri wrote:Are we ignoring the German versions of the 1980 and 1982 albums? :innocent:
well I is, he used to be in a band that were quite good before them, tho' :|
I still think that you are missing out on some good stuff post-Lamb. I have a sampler (leider ohne deutsche Versionen) if you want a listen. :lol:
I'd just say the Ein Deutsches Albums are an alternate version.

And horrid translations too, really, it all comes across as far too literally translated :urff:

(otherwise the self titled albums are rather good, don't miss 'em!)

Oh, By The Way

Posted: 22 Nov 2007, 11:26
by Karst
http://www.pinkfloyd.com/x/news.html?nid=24 8)

Its all you need (except maybe for the last three).

Posted: 22 Nov 2007, 11:33
by Badlander
There's a few nice tracks on both A MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON & THE DIVISION BELL, whereas THE FINAL CUT is utter crap. :von:

Posted: 22 Nov 2007, 14:50
by deadagain
Errrrm, there's no Bauhaus! surely their first album on 4AD is a classic must listen?

What is extreme about Floodland? it was mega commercial and radio-friendly. Surely Gift could be argued as extreme (as in groundbreaking & innovative), but not Floodland

Posted: 22 Nov 2007, 15:14
by Badlander
deadagain wrote: What is extreme about Floodland? it was mega commercial and radio-friendly. Surely Gift could be argued as extreme (as in groundbreaking & innovative), but not Floodland
Good point. Reminds me of that time when Eldo said in a TV interview about VT "It's a jolly record !":lol:
Make it just a wee dark and people automatically assume it's the most extreme thing ever ! :roll:

Posted: 22 Nov 2007, 16:09
by mh
I'd say they just got lazy, felt that they should include the Sisters, and so put in the most commercially successful one that everyone would know.

Extra negative points for leaving out the "The".

Posted: 22 Nov 2007, 18:57
by Petseri
Obviousman wrote:And horrid translations too, really, it all comes across as far too literally translated :urff:)
Admittedly I have not listened to them in several years, but I had the impression that the second one (from 1982) was translated better than the first, more to maintain the feel of the songs instead of just a translation. Like you, I did feel that the first one was too much of a direct translation. I am nevertheless glad tthat Gabriel made the two German ones.