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Quick question about Dave Allen who produced FALAA. Its often cited that he was hired because of the Chameleons record that he did. I was looking into this earlier today, but I noticed that that album was released after the Sister's debut? I did notice he worked with Depeche Mode and Human League. More crucially, he worked with Hussey on the Dead or Aliver album?

Karst wrote:Quick question about Dave Allen who produced FALAA. Its often cited that he was hired because of the Chameleons record that he did. I was looking into this earlier today, but I noticed that that album was released after the Sister's debut? I did notice he worked with Depeche Mode and Human League. More crucially, he worked with Hussey on the Dead or Aliver album?

I always had the impression it was more because of his rather succesful work with The Cure..with the Walk Away single as a sort of a try out to see how the record buyers/press would respond to the combination of the Sisters sound and the Eldritch/Allen production/mixing ... but then..what do I know?

aye, 86

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Times

dunno where you might have heard that chams reference tbh

he was a pretty well established producer by that time, but the DOA link is interesting.

I think I read it in the Heartland book? Not really being au fait with the Chameleons, does Strange Times have the same production values as FALAA?

not really comparible - its a completely diff sound tbh. real drums for a start

and a lot more reverb & echo on the chams guitars

if it helps, the track you are most likely to have heard is 'swamp thing', and that's from ST.

ST is generally regarded as the point where the band went a bit too american indie/college rock and lost their uniqueness. they split up not long after that. while i agree its probably their most accessible sounding album (a term often used as a criticism), its still an absolute classic and contains some stunnign songs, such as caution, soul in isolation, etc etc

Thanks Quiff.

<slight derail>
Strange Times is my most played Chams album, I wouldn't say it shared any similarities to FALAA in production or style, next up I'd go for What does Anything Mean, Basically (my most enduring Chams album), I find the production on Script of the Bridge a bit sparse and gloomy and expect to be shouted down for this

James Blast wrote:<slight derail>
Strange Times is my most played Chams album, I wouldn't say it shared any similarities to FALAA in production or style, next up I'd go for What does Anything Mean, Basically (my most enduring Chams album), I find the production on Script of the Bridge a bit sparse and gloomy and expect to be shouted down for this

i'm with you completely on that one, herr blast

script has some very fab songs on, but TBH i find there isn't the variety of texture on the individual song production for me... some of them tend to merge into one, despite them all being classic songs...

thankee Boss! but...
I do know a certain member in Forres who would disagree with oor appraisals, maybe a split to General Chat would be appropriate as a nice bit of ChamChat is allas welcome

I remember Ness (and Jo?) being somewhat displeased at my saying that everything on Script Of The Bridge sounded the same. I didn't say they sounded bad, just the same.

i bet they were

I just meant that they all sounded okay, but I couldn't tell one song from another.

Props on the Lynn Anderson lyrics in your .sig, Boss.

Dark wrote:I just meant that they all sounded okay, but I couldn't tell one song from another.

Cloth ears You listen to far to much 'noize' it's dulled yer senses

I don't really "get" The Chams <duck>.
I mean, I don't mind 'em but I don't have the same high regard for 'em as most people around here seem to.
And that "comeback" gig I saw in York in 2002 left me somewhat underwhelmed.

Scardwel wrote:I don't really "get" The Chams <duck>.
I mean, I don't mind 'em but I don't have the same high regard for 'em as most people around here seem to.
And that "comeback" gig I saw in York in 2002 left me somewhat underwhelmed.

that gig was a disaster though

Quiff Boy wrote:

Scardwel wrote:I don't really "get" The Chams <duck>.
I mean, I don't mind 'em but I don't have the same high regard for 'em as most people around here seem to.
And that "comeback" gig I saw in York in 2002 left me somewhat underwhelmed.

that gig was a disaster though

It was the last time that I managed to see them live. I also forgot to record an episode of "I'm Alan Partridge" on the night in question.

Some nice pics of the evening, from the lovely Sonja.

http://www.chelseamonday.co.uk/fibbers0923/

all the usual suspects on those pictures

including, me, in purple

http://www.chelseamonday.co.uk/fibbers0 ... 33_JPG.htm

brrrrr

mind you, scardy seems to be enjoying himself on this one

http://www.chelseamonday.co.uk/fibbers0 ... 31_JPG.htm

Quiff Boy wrote:mind you, scardy seems to be enjoying himself on this one
http://www.chelseamonday.co.uk/fibbers0 ... 31_JPG.htm

Must've been the Timmy Taylor Ale (on form as I recall)

Dave Allen talking about his time with the Sisters

dave's 'homepage'

A Music and MP3 blog by Dave Allen of Gang of Four.
http://www.pampelmoose.com

and the latest news therein:

Allen and Burnham Exit Gang of Four
http://www.pampelmoose.com/mspeaks/2008 ... ng-of-four

a bloke on that website wrote:Dave,
I saw the DC show and it was awesome… I had seen Hugo, Jon, and Andy with Sara Lee (Songs of the Free tour) and the Hard tour in Milwaukee, then saw Jon and Andy in a weird show on a snowy night in DC. But the original line up was the best.

Speaking of snowy nights… I saw you with Shriekback on a snowy night in Milwaukee… it was incredible… any chance of a Shriekback reunion? (I know, Barry still has a band, but you know… All Lined Up, Suck!, My Spine Is The Bassline, Fish Below The Ice…)

not James Blast

thankee Boss

http://www.chelseamonday.co.uk/fibbers0 ... 21_JPG.htm

It was hard work watching gigs I tell you, midway we always needed a kip.

Thanks for bringing this thread back up.

Burn my eyes!

Well we were younger then,
And the days were long and slow
But were we wiser then?
I couldn't say, I wouldn't know


Now THAT's a first, me managing to quote Chams lyrics. I may have to lie down

They are great piccies...