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Does TOL (untouched by the hand of Ofra Haza) exist ?

Posted: 03 Jan 2008, 19:28
by Mr Mercy
Is it true that there is a unreleaeded demo/sound mixed version of Temple of love (1992) without the vocals of Ofra Haza.
or is this just a stupid rummor / lie ?

Posted: 03 Jan 2008, 19:35
by Ozpat
AFAIK her voice was mixed in later so I'd say yes....

Posted: 03 Jan 2008, 19:42
by Quiff Boy
its a nice idea but i've never seen nor heard anything about one :|

Posted: 03 Jan 2008, 21:10
by 6FeetOver
I'd like to know, myself, if so. I can't stand Temple '92, mainly because of her vocals... :|

Posted: 03 Jan 2008, 21:12
by Ozpat
SINsister wrote:I'd like to know, myself, if so. I can't stand Temple '92, mainly because of her vocals... :|
:eek:

Though I'd like to hear it myself I do love the Touched version.....

Posted: 03 Jan 2008, 21:21
by 6FeetOver
Before I knew that the vocals were Ofra Haza's, I'd thought that they were provided by Terri Nunn, who I also can't stand. :eek: :innocent:

*Hides*

Posted: 03 Jan 2008, 21:33
by Johnny Rev 7.0
As Pat said, her vocals were mixed in after the initial recording. And like Terri Nunn (UTG), Eldritch met her in person for the first time at the ToTP performance. So yes, a version minus Ms Haza's warblings exists.

Posted: 03 Jan 2008, 21:57
by 6FeetOver
Excellent! Thanks, Johnny! ;D

Erm...ok, so who actually has it, then? :innocent: ;)

Posted: 03 Jan 2008, 22:41
by paul
SINsister wrote:Excellent! Thanks, Johnny! ;D

Erm...ok, so who actually has it, then? :innocent: ;)
next question: who has a version of '92 without the lady :?:

Posted: 03 Jan 2008, 22:43
by Johnny Rev 7.0
SINsister wrote:Erm...ok, so who actually has it, then? :innocent: ;)
A wild guess would say:

#1 Eldritch
#2 God (not to be confused with #1) who knows all, sees all and hears all (so probably has the best iPod library ever).
#3 The Son of #2 who allowed his name to be associated with The Sisters on t-shirts in the 90's.

A serious guess would suggest it can only be found on the elusive VT demos. Apparently, along with other versions of the album track-list (and said song in discussion) are YCBTO and Alice 93 in various guises. Let's face it; 18 months in Sweden recording an album was a loooooong time to record an album and come up with only eight songs. :wink:

No doubt one day these things will surface into the food-chain. 8)

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 00:12
by Syberberg
Johnny Rev 7.0 wrote:As Pat said, her vocals were mixed in after the initial recording. And like Terri Nunn (UTG), Eldritch met her in person for the first time at the ToTP performance. So yes, a version minus Ms Haza's warblings exists.
Didn't know that.

According to an interview in UTR (can't remember which one, and don't have my copies of UTR available to check which one:oops: Help would be appreciated here!! Thanks in advance. ) :von: made a comment along the following lines: "She [Ofra Haza] came in to do her vocals. She sang. We peeled ourselves off the ceiling and then she did it again, but better, for the second take and we had to peel ourselves off the ceiling again." That would suggest he was in the recording studio with her prior to the TOTP performance.


Out of curiosity, where did you get your info from?

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 00:19
by Izzy HaveMercy
Syberberg wrote:
Johnny Rev 7.0 wrote:As Pat said, her vocals were mixed in after the initial recording. And like Terri Nunn (UTG), Eldritch met her in person for the first time at the ToTP performance. So yes, a version minus Ms Haza's warblings exists.
Didn't know that.

According to an interview in UTR (can't remember which one, and don't have my copies of UTR available to check which one:oops: Help would be appreciated here!! Thanks in advance. ) :von: made a comment along the following lines: "She [Ofra Haza] came in to do her vocals. She sang. We peeled ourselves off the ceiling and then she did it again, but better, for the second take and we had to peel ourselves off the ceiling again." That would suggest he was in the recording studio with her prior to the TOTP performance.


Out of curiosity, where did you get your info from?
They go into the studio prior to a TotP performance to record one song and at the night proper they lipsync ;)

IZ.

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 00:23
by Syberberg
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:
They go into the studio prior to a TotP performance to record one song and at the night proper they lipsync ;)

IZ.
A faked live performance? On the BBC? The very thought!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: How dare you utter such blasphemy Sir!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 10:07
by streamline
Syberberg wrote:
A faked live performance? On the BBC? The very thought!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: How dare you utter such blasphemy Sir!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol:

..but wasn't the entire 2006 tour mimed to DAT (as some troll posted). That'd be why it was the best tour ever with perfect vocals and sound.

Oh, wait a moment.....
:innocent: :wink: :lol:

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 11:49
by Planet Dave
8 songs in 18 months? That's Von working his knuckles into the dust if you ask me, Johnny. :von: ;D

Interesting indeed about TOL92, but fwiw I adore the warbling.

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 12:23
by weebleswobble
I'm waiting for TOL 2008 (untouched by the hand of Eldritch) :innocent:

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 12:37
by mh
weebleswobble wrote:I'm waiting for TOL 2008 (untouched by the hand of Eldritch) :innocent:
http://www.thesistersofmurphy.com/files ... 20Love.mp3
;D

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 12:46
by Planet Dave
weebleswobble wrote:I'm waiting for TOL 2008 (untouched by the hand of Eldritch) :innocent:
That'll be the remixes by Vitalic and Rude 66 then.

I wish.

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 12:55
by Pista
I would seriously like to hear TOL92 sans wailing harpy.
;D

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 12:57
by weebleswobble
mh wrote:
weebleswobble wrote:I'm waiting for TOL 2008 (untouched by the hand of Eldritch) :innocent:
http://www.thesistersofmurphy.com/files ... 20Love.mp3
;D
sweeeeeeeeet ;D

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 13:19
by cardoman
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:
Syberberg wrote:
Johnny Rev 7.0 wrote:As Pat said, her vocals were mixed in after the initial recording. And like Terri Nunn (UTG), Eldritch met her in person for the first time at the ToTP performance. So yes, a version minus Ms Haza's warblings exists.
Didn't know that.

According to an interview in UTR (can't remember which one, and don't have my copies of UTR available to check which one:oops: Help would be appreciated here!! Thanks in advance. ) :von: made a comment along the following lines: "She [Ofra Haza] came in to do her vocals. She sang. We peeled ourselves off the ceiling and then she did it again, but better, for the second take and we had to peel ourselves off the ceiling again." That would suggest he was in the recording studio with her prior to the TOTP performance.


Out of curiosity, where did you get your info from?
They go into the studio prior to a TotP performance to record one song and at the night proper they lipsync ;)

IZ.
Is that "our" Izzy who's link is added on the sisters of murphy website? :notworthy:

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 13:54
by deadagain
SINsister wrote:Before I knew that the vocals were Ofra Haza's, I'd thought that they were provided by Terri Nunn, who I also can't stand. :eek: :innocent:

*Hides*
don't like Terri Nunn? nooooo, shurely shome mishtake?! i've always thought she looked kinda cute in the video. Must do a google image search....

I have to say I love Ofra's vocals. TOL 92 opened me up to the delights of mid eastern music!

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 13:57
by itnAklipse
i think Andy has always made good choises regarding female collaborators (geesh, i forgot Pattie...but, well exceptio probat regulum).

Still waiting for him to get it on with Natalie...

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 18:33
by radiojamaica
Syberberg wrote: :von: made a comment along the following lines: "She [Ofra Haza] came in to do her vocals. She sang. We peeled ourselves off the ceiling and then she did it again, but better, for the second take and we had to peel ourselves off the ceiling again." That would suggest he was in the recording studio with her prior to the TOTP performance.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story :innocent:

When the 92 version was released I hated it pretty much. Hey, in my defense I was only 14 years old and thought the 83 version was the best thing since hot water... I still like the original version best :P
I do have to say that viewing the Gegen Die Wand film made me see/hear the 92 version in a different light. It no bad actually :D

Ofra Haza herself is manna from heaven :notworthy: :notworthy:

Posted: 04 Jan 2008, 19:46
by 6FeetOver
I don't care for "wailing," never have. That's all. :P