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Posted: **03 Feb 2008, 21:50**

who were they...

I could have always SWORN that it is Julianne's voice - listen to it, loud with good speakers.

we forgive as we forget
as the day is long
as the day is long
Rain from Heaven <-- on the word 'Heaven' it sounds SO MUCH like her voice.

Posted: **03 Feb 2008, 21:52**

They ran this place for a while: http://www.templejeremiah.org/a/gift_shop.php

(Or failing that, look on the back of the album and it lists the members)

Posted: **03 Feb 2008, 21:58**

mh wrote:They ran this place for a while: http://www.templejeremiah.org/a/gift_shop.php

Is that Lucas Fox behind the counter?

Posted: **03 Feb 2008, 23:04**

Pardon my ignorance, but who exactly was/is Lucas Fox? I know about Patricia, James Ray and Alan Vega, but I've never been sure where Lucas came from. Was he part of The Performance as well? And did he really play drums when the Doktor was present anyway?

I've also always been very skeptical about James Ray playing guitar, as I can't for the life of me hear any on the album.

Posted: **03 Feb 2008, 23:12**

stufarq wrote:Pardon my ignorance, but who exactly was/is Lucas Fox?

Clicky

P.S: It's not really his shop

Posted: **03 Feb 2008, 23:15**

And this may be of interest too;

The Sisterhood released one LP, Gift, in 1986 on Eldritch's own Merciful Release label, which includes "Giving Ground" and four other songs. Not named after the English word but rather the German word for poison, Gift is quite simple with its long, droning rhythms and ill sentiment ("what you have lost can never be found" and "trust lies broken, and the truth is drowned") towards the former Sisters members, especially That Guitarist.

On "Jihad" Patricia Morrison recites the numbers 2-5-0-0-0 several times. According to Eldritch this is a reference to the amount of money that he won from The m*****n in the civil courts after suing them over the ownership of the name "The Sisterhood".[citation needed]

A version of "Colours" with Eldritch singing was later included as a b-side of "This Corrosion" and then a bonus track on the CD of The Sisters of Mercy album Floodland.

On "Finland Red, Egypt White", Lucas Fox reads the technical specifications of an AK-47 rifle to several minutes of sheer repetition.

The hit single "This Corrosion" that appeared on "Floodland" was originally planned for the Gift album, harboring the same vitriol towards the betrayers of Eldritch's trust.

Posted: **04 Feb 2008, 21:20**

Thanks. I'd actually seen the second one but not the first. Motorhead eh? Still surprised that AE used a drummer, especially alongside the Doktor (although I've seen that German performance using a band with a drummer.)

Anyone have more definite info on the guitar work on the album?

Posted: **04 Feb 2008, 21:57**

mh wrote:They ran this place for a while: http://www.templejeremiah.org/a/gift_shop.php

Clicky

"Take 3 parts vitriol, 2 measures bile, and a heaped tablespoon of sneer. Add one fat-bob-haired yank bird with a make-up obsession, stir in a metallurgist skin-basher, bake for 8 months in a pre-heated oven at gas mark 25k, and serve cold a l'italien."

Posted: **05 Feb 2008, 00:44**

EvilBastard wrote:
mh wrote:They ran this place for a while: http://www.templejeremiah.org/a/gift_shop.php
Clicky

"Take 3 parts vitriol, 2 measures bile, and a heaped tablespoon of sneer. Add one fat-bob-haired yank bird with a make-up obsession, stir in a metallurgist skin-basher, bake for 8 months in a pre-heated oven at gas mark 25k, and serve cold a l'italien."

Makes two portions, best served cold (like a certain other dish).

Posted: **05 Feb 2008, 14:28**

stufarq wrote:Thanks. I'd actually seen the second one but not the first. Motorhead eh? Still surprised that AE used a drummer, especially alongside the Doktor (although I've seen that German performance using a band with a drummer.)

Anyone have more definite info on the guitar work on the album?

Lucas Fox only does the recital of the AK47 manual - no drumming. I think he just happened to have some good speed that day and ended up in the studio.

Posted: **06 Feb 2008, 00:01**

stufarq wrote:Anyone have more definite info on the guitar work on the album?

Other than Torch was worked on as a Sisterhood song and Torch features a guitar, no...

Posted: **06 Feb 2008, 00:11**

Thanks guys. The wiki says Lucas did the recital and drummed too but just the recital sounds more likely.

Didn't know Torch started as a Sisterhood song.

Posted: **06 Feb 2008, 00:56**

It started as a Sisters song but apparently it had too many chords. You'd need to ask Craig Addams...

Posted: **06 Feb 2008, 22:59**

"Bassline? Don't worry about that, just give him some root notes to play"

The continual feud in the Legion camp, something tells me the Craig had similar issues

Posted: **08 Feb 2008, 00:16**

so who made up the Chorus of Vengeance? Are a couple of friends of mine and I the only ones who are 99% sure that Julianne Regan's voice can be heard?

Posted: **08 Feb 2008, 01:07**

AlistairCookie wrote:so who made up the Chorus of Vengeance? Are a couple of friends of mine and I the only ones who are 99% sure that Julianne Regan's voice can be heard?

The Sisterhood was a short-lived English musical project, consisting of Andrew Eldritch (writer and producer), drum machine Doktor Avalanche and the "Chorus of Vengeance" of Lucas Fox (drums), Patricia Morrison (bass and vocals), James Ray (guitar and vocals) and Alan Vega (synthesizer and vocals). Eldritch does not sing lead vocals on the record.

Wikipedia is a very useful site. Try it some time.

Posted: **09 Feb 2008, 00:43**

AlistairCookie wrote:so who made up the Chorus of Vengeance? Are a couple of friends of mine and I the only ones who are 99% sure that Julianne Regan's voice can be heard?

Er, yes, you probably are. No Julianne. Click the links the other guys have provided for the info. (But ignore the bits about drums and guitar - the posts on this thread seem to have the more likely info in that regard.)

Posted: **09 Feb 2008, 02:17**

stufarq wrote:Thanks guys. The wiki says Lucas did the recital and drummed too but just the recital sounds more likely.
.

<<<doktor avalanche snorts in digital derision at the idea of non-electronic beings floundering their evolutionarily-defunct limbs at biscuit-tins and tupperware bowls in preference to himself (and the nurse).

do we know who sang colours yet on gift?

Posted: **10 Feb 2008, 00:56**

stufarq wrote: Er, yes, you probably are. No Julianne. Click the links the other guys have provided for the info. (But ignore the bits about drums and guitar - the posts on this thread seem to have the more likely info in that regard.)

Why would I use it when I can have others like you do my bidding?

In any event, I have the Sisterhood CD and there is nothing about who makes up the Chorus, while a Wiki reference is anything but the end all of definitive sources. Much more accurate than given credit for, but still unpredictably erroneous. Why anyone would take hearsay about Sisters lore as the definitive truth is beyond any reasonable explanation.

Posted: **10 Feb 2008, 01:05**

stufarq wrote: Er, yes, you probably are. No Julianne. Click the links the other guys have provided for the info. (But ignore the bits about drums and guitar - the posts on this thread seem to have the more likely info in that regard.)

well, there is only one link and that was a real funny joke.

I think it's Julianne and am happy in my bubble, thanks anyway. I personally think James Ray is actually Gary Marx as well so that's who you're dealing with.

Posted: **10 Feb 2008, 02:01**

You think James Ray is Gary Marx?

Sorry, you're beyond help.

Posted: **10 Feb 2008, 03:02**

Dark wrote:You think James Ray is Gary Marx?

Sorry, you're beyond help.

I know...

it goes much deeper than silly Sisters of Mercy conspiracy theories...

Does anyone smile in here - or is that against the rules of Goth?

Posted: **10 Feb 2008, 04:55**

From my vinyl copy of GIFT:

GIFT . MUSIC WRITTEN AND PRODUCED BY ANDREW ELDRITCH
FEATURING DOKTOR AVALANCHE AND THE CHORUS OF VENGEANCE
LUCAS FOX . JAMES RAY . PATRICIA MORRISON . ALAN VEGA

Since when did Julianne Regan have an American accent?

Posted: **10 Feb 2008, 07:20**

Syberberg wrote:From my vinyl copy of GIFT:

GIFT . MUSIC WRITTEN AND PRODUCED BY ANDREW ELDRITCH
FEATURING DOKTOR AVALANCHE AND THE CHORUS OF VENGEANCE
LUCAS FOX . JAMES RAY . PATRICIA MORRISON . ALAN VEGA
Since when did Julianne Regan have an American accent?

you can hear whether or not the girl singing has an American accent? Alright then Steve Austin.

And we all know that the Brits sound American when they sing anyway

Posted: **10 Feb 2008, 15:48**

AlistairCookie wrote:
Syberberg wrote:From my vinyl copy of GIFT:

GIFT . MUSIC WRITTEN AND PRODUCED BY ANDREW ELDRITCH
FEATURING DOKTOR AVALANCHE AND THE CHORUS OF VENGEANCE
LUCAS FOX . JAMES RAY . PATRICIA MORRISON . ALAN VEGA
Since when did Julianne Regan have an American accent?
you can hear whether or not the girl singing has an American accent?

i can hear that it's not julianne though....and read (on the official release) that it's not her.

and i know (because i've met them both) that sisterRAY and mr. marx are most definitely NOT the same person.

AlistairCookie wrote:And we all know that the Brits sound American when they sing anyway

eldritch doesn't.