Heartland

http://alpha.search.wikia.com/

www.mahalo.com/

These seem altogether New? ...

Anyone know more about them? ...

Incidentally, I notice that unlike with Google, our favourite Web Forum Heartland does not figure at the top of their lists!
– Perhaps something needs to be done about this? (i.e get us included …)

It probably doesn't come at the top as you have to input results yourself, first couple of times, IIRC.

Tried wikia about a year ago and was totally worthless back then, might've evolved since then tho...

ok, ta! ...

I just discovered some recent comments Sir Tim Berners-Lee made about all of this ...

Berners-Lee calls time on Google

Next-generation web apps could blow away search giant

Guy Dixon, vnunet.com 14 Mar 2008

Google may have to stand aside as the next wave of web technologies sweeps in, according to Sir Tim Berners-Lee.
Sir Tim told The Times Online that Google's achievement in making the internet more easily navigable could be dwarfed by the "web of the future".
The man who developed the World Wide Web in 1989 predicted that the Google of the future will be a "mega-mash-up" where web-based connectivity is built into every piece of data.
"In the semantic web, it's like every piece of data is given a longitude and latitude on a map, and anyone can 'mash' them together and use them for different things," said Sir Tim.
"Imagine if two completely separate things - your bank statements and your calendar - spoke the same language and could share information with one another.
"You could drag one on top of the other and a whole bunch of dots would appear showing you when you spent your money.
"If you still weren't sure of where you were when you made a particular transaction, you could then drag your photo album on top of the calendar, and be reminded that you used your credit card at the same time you were taking pictures of your kids at a theme park. So you would know not to claim it as a tax deduction."
Social networking sites such as Facebook and MySpace could also become just one of a kind as a multiplicity of networks become available.
"At the moment, people are very excited about all these connections being made between people - for obvious reasons, because people are important," said Sir Tim.
"But I think after a while people will realise that there are many other things you can connect to via the web."

Oh it makes my head hurt! - I need a 'white cigar' Doctor ...

reactiv8 wrote:I just discovered some recent comments Sir Tim Berners-Lee made about all of this ...

Berners-Lee calls time on Google

Next-generation web apps could blow away search giant

Guy Dixon, vnunet.com 14 Mar 2008

Google may have to stand aside as the next wave of web technologies sweeps in, according to Sir Tim Berners-Lee.
Sir Tim told The Times Online that Google's achievement in making the internet more easily navigable could be dwarfed by the "web of the future".
The man who developed the World Wide Web in 1989 predicted that the Google of the future will be a "mega-mash-up" where web-based connectivity is built into every piece of data.
"In the semantic web, it's like every piece of data is given a longitude and latitude on a map, and anyone can 'mash' them together and use them for different things," said Sir Tim.
"Imagine if two completely separate things - your bank statements and your calendar - spoke the same language and could share information with one another.
"You could drag one on top of the other and a whole bunch of dots would appear showing you when you spent your money.
"If you still weren't sure of where you were when you made a particular transaction, you could then drag your photo album on top of the calendar, and be reminded that you used your credit card at the same time you were taking pictures of your kids at a theme park. So you would know not to claim it as a tax deduction."
Social networking sites such as Facebook and MySpace could also become just one of a kind as a multiplicity of networks become available.
"At the moment, people are very excited about all these connections being made between people - for obvious reasons, because people are important," said Sir Tim.
"But I think after a while people will realise that there are many other things you can connect to via the web."

Oh it makes my head hurt! - I need a 'white cigar' Doctor ...

Big Brother's just going to love all that new ability to track everyone with even greater ease.

Sorry, having another cynical moment.

Syberberg wrote: Big Brother's just going to love all that new ability to track everyone with even greater ease.

Sorry, having another cynical moment.

You are absolutely correct of course my wise peer!

Oh, and, please don't be sorry ... Surely you know how I (we?) feel about that on this forum? I am learning, albeit slowly ...

reactiv8 wrote:

Syberberg wrote: Big Brother's just going to love all that new ability to track everyone with even greater ease.

Sorry, having another cynical moment.

You are absolutely correct of course my wise peer!

Oh, and, please don't be sorry ... Surely you know how I (we?) feel about that on this forum? I am learning, albeit slowly ...

I had a feeling we'd probably/hopefully have more that we agreed upon than disagreed upon.

Syberberg wrote:
I had a feeling we'd probably/hopefully have more that we agreed upon than disagreed upon.

Well that's a relief isn't it! ...

Let's 'Change the World' now, eh?!
(oh. and make ourselves richer and wiser too whilst we're about it?)

reactiv8 wrote:

Syberberg wrote:
I had a feeling we'd probably/hopefully have more that we agreed upon than disagreed upon.

Well that's a relief isn't it! ...

Let's 'Change the World' now, eh?!
(oh. and make ourselves richer and wiser too whilst we're about it?)

Well dunno about "richer", I'm not that materialistic (except for guitars and music related stuff. Oh, and books). I define "rich" as "quality of life."

But "wiser", deffo.

Hmm. I think I might actually like you two - who knew?

SINsister wrote:Hmm. I think I might actually like you two - who knew?

Happy Dayz ARE here Again!

Syberberg wrote: Big Brother's just going to love all that new ability to track everyone with even greater ease.

You were certainly right to be concerned about us being ‘stalked’ by shadowy commercial and political agents my Sybergnetic chum! … Once upon a time (about 20 years ago actually) I worked for a bunch of charlatans called CCN in Nottingham (don’t confuse this with CNN news network) who ostensibly provided online ‘business information’ in the form of credit references etc. to various commercial organisations, as an offshoot of their Mail Order business. I fell out with them almost immediately and left, but ironically they were shortly afterwards exposed by a journalist called Alastair Campbell (sound familiar?) for their shady practices … The company later went on to develop an infamous and huge database called Experian of which you are doubtless also aware? (if not you should be).

The Labour party too are also engaged in this underhand ‘surveillance’ for their own political ends, and access to their database is of course strictly controlled … Anyone who does have access should pass on any information they can to us immediately.

I now read that others too are at the same game snooping on us. There is a new kid on the block called Phorm, which is in practice another of these scum. This should be of no surprise of course, but is nonetheless extremely alarming. I personally am so paranoid these days that I refuse to carry a mobile telephone, and probably shouldn’t be writing this either, but realistically, ‘Big Brother’ probably ‘got my number’ (and mugshot) years ago from all the demos I have attended.

Sir Tim Berners-Lee has again hit out at this:~

Web inventor's warning on spy software
By Stephen Adams

Last Updated: 2:37am GMT 18/03/2008

The creator of the World Wide Web has hit out at corporate attempts to track users' online browsing habits.

And in full here:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml ... web117.xml

In case you or any one else thinks this is fiction or anything new, sadly it is not. Will we ever learn? Draw your own conclusions.



Oh, and one last thing to all my dear Heartland Peers: I do hope for the sake of the Dalai Lama, Tibet and ultimately our own ‘freedom’ (if it ever really existed?!), that you will BOYCOTT THIS SUMMER’S OLYMPICS?

How am I meant to "boycott the Olympics"? I had no intention of attending, buying its memorabilia, or even watching it anyway.

Dear God! Mr. 8, you really are a total menace

Dark wrote:How am I meant to "boycott the Olympics"? I had no intention of attending, buying its memorabilia, or even watching it anyway.

Well that's a relief ... I never thought any of us would do otherwise, just that we should show solidarity to Tibet and all. I do care, and hope I'm not alone in this?

James Blast wrote:Dear God! Mr. 8, you really are a total menace

Remarkably MILD for you Mr Blast! ...
Invoking the Almighty too! ...
I'm almost lost for words ...
Oh, I do like the Nickname though!
Actually, to be absolutely correct here, I'm the Black one on the right who goes: Gnash & Gnip !!!
You already knew this of course though didn't you?

Pardon (whoops) for the poignant 'resurrection' of this thread but this article
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.j ... gle105.xml
intrigued me.

I liked the alliteration too!
Though not the deliberate (?) spelling mistake (touches of 'Grauniad' there, eh?!)
Perhaps one of my witty and suitable enthusiastic peers has an appropriate image to add here?
Combine the two above if you can?

Anyway, 'Apposite', eh? etc.