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OK, I've been working on these more up-to-date definitions of various subcultures of "the yoof of today" and I think I have them sussed now.

Goths are dull, unadventurous, conservative people who aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle. They happen to wear black and this makes them think they're "alternative".

Emos are dull, unadventurous, conservative people who aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle. They happen to moan a lot and this makes them think they're "alternative".

Punks are dull, unadventurous, conservative people who aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle. They happen to dye their hair in bright colours and this makes them think they're "alternative".

Metallers are dull, unadventurous, conservative people who aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle. They happen to have long hair and wear studs and this makes them think they're "alternative".

Metaller: Dont know what dull is or how write this ;
fixed now

it's not only "the yoof of today" subcultures descriptions but all times. and i'm f@ckin' serious now.

lazarus corporation wrote:aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle

<---has NEVER "aspired" to such a thing. The very thought gives me panic attacks. So what does that make me then?

I thought this was a thread about Sarah Orange's nightclub in Leeds...

SINsister wrote:

lazarus corporation wrote:aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle

<---has NEVER "aspired" to such a thing. The very thought gives me panic attacks. So what does that make me then?

With the greatest of respect, I'm talking about the young 'uns compared to "back in the day". (And obviously there are a few exceptions to the rule amongst them)

Purple Light wrote:I thought this was a thread about Sarah Orange's nightclub in Leeds...

What makes you think it isn't?

lazarus corporation wrote:

SINsister wrote:

lazarus corporation wrote:aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle

<---has NEVER "aspired" to such a thing. The very thought gives me panic attacks. So what does that make me then?

With the greatest of respect, I'm talking about the young 'uns compared to "back in the day". (And obviously there are a few exceptions to the rule amongst them)

I wasn't really a g*ffik/rivethead "back in the day," though, sir. I came to all of it relatively late...

SINsister wrote:

lazarus corporation wrote:aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle

<---has NEVER "aspired" to such a thing. The very thought gives me panic attacks. So what does that make me then?

Sorry but your command of the English language (your way with words) would catapult you head first into the English middle class. Sorry.

(you could interpret this as a compliment by the way)

DerekR wrote:

Purple Light wrote:I thought this was a thread about Sarah Orange's nightclub in Leeds...

What makes you think it isn't?

I'd rule out dull and unadventurous. Come on Al, you remember our jaunts around town with her!

No? Well, there you go then!

Gollum's Cock wrote:

SINsister wrote:

lazarus corporation wrote:aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle

<---has NEVER "aspired" to such a thing. The very thought gives me panic attacks. So what does that make me then?

Sorry but your command of the English language (your way with words) would catapult you head first into the English middle class. Sorry.

(you could interpret this as a compliment by the way)

I think you may be confusing education and/or social class with lifestyle aspiration. The former is where you came from, the latter is where you want to go (and how you want to get there).

lazarus corporation wrote:OK, I've been working on these more up-to-date definitions of various subcultures of "the yoof of today" and I think I have them sussed now.

Goths are dull, unadventurous, conservative people who aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle. They happen to wear black and this makes them think they're "alternative".

This is why I've given up and succumbed to TopShop.

Not sure where aspirations of mathematical research and Queer activism fit in with the middle class ideal, though.

Motz wrote:

lazarus corporation wrote:OK, I've been working on these more up-to-date definitions of various subcultures of "the yoof of today" and I think I have them sussed now.

Goths are dull, unadventurous, conservative people who aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle. They happen to wear black and this makes them think they're "alternative".

This is why I've given up and succumbed to TopShop.

Not sure where aspirations of mathematical research and Queer activism fit in with the middle class ideal, though.

I think you're safe from middle-class mediocrity, Motz!

this may be required reading Paul
Dr. Wendy Fonarow Empire of Dirt
Synopsis
Britain is widely considered the cradle of independent music culture. Bands like Radiohead and Belle and Sebastian, which epitomize indie music's sounds and attitudes, have spawned worldwide fanbases. This in-depth study of the British independent music scene explores how the behavior of fans, artists, and music industry professionals produce a community with a specific aesthetic based on moral values.Author Wendy Fonarow, a scholar with years of experience in the various sectors of the indie music scene, examines the indie music "gig" as a ritual in which all participants are actively involved. This ritual allows participants to play with cultural norms regarding appropriate behavior, especially in the domains of sex and creativity. Her investigation uncovers the motivations of audience members when they first enter the community and how their positions change over time so that the gig functions for most members as a rite of passage. "Empire of Dirt" sheds new light on music, gender roles, emotion, subjectivity, embodiment, and authenticity.

I'd go as far as calling subculture the actual culture, for what's sold as culture today may range from tourist's entertainment to ammunition for ghetto blasters, but mainly is the product of an industry, whereas subculture consists of ideas and initiative of individuals, thus representing identities, lifestyle and the spirit of the people who make it. Many of the creators and consumers consume "Culture" as well, but they make something living of these codpieces of choiciest larch's vomit with actual frogbones in it (Disgusting but crunchy! Where would I be without the Pythons?) that drip out of TV sets and radios, get nailed to walls or whatever.

SINsister wrote: So what does that make me then?

You are dull, unadventurous, conservative people who aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle. You happen to wear black, be member on goth-bands forums and this makes think you're "alternative".


but you look so lovely

psichonaut wrote:

SINsister wrote: So what does that make me then?

You are dull, unadventurous, conservative people who aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle. You happen to wear black, be member on goth-bands forums and this makes think you're "alternative".


but you look so lovely

Fuck you very much, my dear. I'm farther left than Ghandi on that political compass thingy; in fact, I'm almost afraid to speak my mind in my dad's hometown because of its severely (frighteningly) right-wing populace. I'm the opposite of everything that "conservative" encompasses, ffs.

And the Sisters aren't g*th, remember?

yep...my 2 sisters aren't goth

Gollum's Cock wrote:

SINsister wrote:

lazarus corporation wrote:aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle

<---has NEVER "aspired" to such a thing. The very thought gives me panic attacks. So what does that make me then?

Sorry but your command of the English language (your way with words) would catapult you head first into the English middle class. Sorry.

(you could interpret this as a compliment by the way)

<---not English, sorry. But thanks.
Actually, my command of the language should catapult me into most countries' upper class ranks - but that's beside the point.

lazarus corporation wrote:

SINsister wrote:

lazarus corporation wrote:aspire to a dull middle-class lifestyle

<---has NEVER "aspired" to such a thing. The very thought gives me panic attacks. So what does that make me then?

With the greatest of respect, I'm talking about the young 'uns compared to "back in the day". (And obviously there are a few exceptions to the rule amongst them)

You, me, out back, rapiers at dawn.

lazarus corporation wrote:

Gollum's Cock wrote:

SINsister wrote:
<---has NEVER "aspired" to such a thing. The very thought gives me panic attacks. So what does that make me then?

Sorry but your command of the English language (your way with words) would catapult you head first into the English middle class. Sorry.

(you could interpret this as a compliment by the way)

I think you may be confusing education and/or social class with lifestyle aspiration. The former is where you came from, the latter is where you want to go (and how you want to get there).

I hate been corrected (even when I'm wrong)