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Body Politic
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 15:34
by abridged
It occurred to me that the Sisters (in whatever) carnation were one of the finist political bands ever. From The Reptile House to Vision Thing Eldritch comments on the contemporary with wit and accuracy. I think sometimes this is forgotten in discussions. Valentine, Dr Jeep etc is as relevent as ever. Beats Mr Bragg et al at any rate!
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 16:14
by sultan2075
I'm pretty sure Valentine is about vampires. And Dr. Jeep is also about vampires, but this time they're robotic vampires that hang out at the Sheraton.
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 16:24
by abridged
Once read, I think in one of Mick Mercer's books, of someone thinking Floorshow was about covens...
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 17:30
by markfiend
Robot vampires from outer space.
With laser beams.
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 17:37
by mh
Pfffft.
It's all Roadrunner cartoons!
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Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 17:48
by markfiend
Robot vampire roadrunner cartoons?
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 17:49
by mh
From outer space. With lasers.
Glad we got that one sorted.
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 17:55
by Quiff Boy
cool
can i buy that on ebay?
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 18:22
by abridged
Spiggy the Vampire Killer? Ahem.
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 19:46
by Dark
I have heard far more political bands than the Sisters. They're okay, people, not the best at everything.
Christ, it's as bad as people claiming the Beatles invented heavy metal..
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 20:50
by stufarq
This is, without shadow* of a doubt, the finest thread on the entire forum.
*Back to vampires again
Posted: 28 Nov 2008, 21:42
by Bartek
Dark wrote:I have heard far more political bands than the Sisters. They're okay, people, not the best at everything.
Christ, it's as bad as people claiming the Beatles invented heavy metal..
like RATM or Serj Taknian and s.o.a.d.
the Beatles really invented heavy metal
Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 03:50
by mh
Quiff Boy wrote:cool
can i buy that on ebay?
Lesbian stripper ninja twin sister robot vampire roadrunner cartoons from outer space with lasers?
I'll buy 20!
Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 09:08
by Qarly
I would like to one day find out that every Sisters song is really about waffles. Or alternately, marmalade.
Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 12:24
by abridged
Ah What I was originally getting at, probably quite clumsily, was that in the midst of the arguments over the g-word and the like, the fact that Eldritch was essentially very political in his writing got overlooked mostly be lazy jpurnalists and sometimes fans. I remember seeing someone, at Wembley I think dragging a home-made coffin around. Everyone is allowed their own interpretation of course but some are just wrong. Yeah there are far more overtly political bands but generally they preach in a hectoring and incredibly dull manner. Ah, the Beatles invented bad haircuts.
Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 17:26
by Izzy HaveMercy
abridged wrote:Ah What I was originally getting at, probably quite clumsily, was that in the midst of the arguments over the g-word and the like, the fact that Eldritch was essentially very political in his writing got overlooked mostly be lazy jpurnalists and sometimes fans. I remember seeing someone, at Wembley I think dragging a home-made coffin around. Everyone is allowed their own interpretation of course but some are just wrong. Yeah there are far more overtly political bands but generally they preach in a hectoring and incredibly dull manner. Ah, the Beatles invented bad haircuts.
Seeing the prices at Wembley for an overnight stay, I can't really blame someone to drag along his own accomodations...
japanese lesbian schoolgirl vampires with gatling guns for me please, takeaway
IZ.
Posted: 29 Nov 2008, 22:44
by ZacheryAllanStarkey
I believe that Dominion/Mother Russia is one of the finest political songs ever written. The lyrics are incredibly dense, complicated, creative, and work on many different levels. I remember the first time I heard the song, I was blown away. I had to spend a good amount of time analyzing the lyrics. Its one of the finest comments on relations between Europe and the US.
I think Vision Thing is one of the best tunes ever written about George Bush 1. I remember Bush 1's presidency well, and the song Vision Thing captures how myself and other felt about him.
I always say the the intelligent, acute, and political nature of Eldritch's lyrics are exactly what seperates the Sisters of Mercy from being a crap Goth and and puts them in the same league with fine post punk bands such as New Order, the Smiths, Talking Heads, REM, Public Image Ltd., ect.
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 00:51
by stufarq
And I believe that Burn is one of the finest songs ever written about waffles and marmalade.
But, to be fair, only two people have actually posted sensible replies to the original question. So yes, absolutely, at least in terms of general, non-partisan commentary. A lot of others are far more political but sometimes you wish they weren't.
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 04:25
by nodubmanshouts
Sisters lyrics are easily compartmentalized:
Reptile House - all about Thatcherite Britain, speed, and his mummy.
FALAA - all about his mummy, speed and sex.
Floodland - all about the cold war, his mummy, sex, and Wayne.
Vision Thing - all about America, sex, mummy, and speed.
Everything else - all about speed, speed, more speed.... but above all... its about speed.
Compare and contrast with the m*****n:
Almost everything ever written - about sex.
What wasn't about sex - About Andrew.
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 04:34
by sultan2075
He's got a mummy? Oh my word he is so goth. A vampire who owns a mummy! And sings songs about robotic space vampires.
He's even more frightening than Carl McCoy and Glenn Danzig combined!
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 12:48
by silentNate
Qarly wrote:I would like to one day find out that every Sisters song is really about waffles. Or alternately, marmalade.
Isn't
I Was Wrong about finding that your cheese on toast has a later of Marmite underneath?
I don't wanna talk this over
I don't wanna talk it out
I was quite impressed until I hit the floor
Isn't that what friends are for?
Pain looks great on other people
That's what they're for
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 16:39
by 6FeetOver
stufarq wrote:And I believe that Burn is one of the finest songs ever written about waffles and marmalade.
No, that one's about
toast, obviously. Silly man.
Posted: 30 Nov 2008, 17:39
by randdebiel²
Quiff Boy wrote:cool
can i buy that on ebay?
sounds more like thinkgeek stuff
Posted: 01 Dec 2008, 21:56
by stufarq
SINsister wrote:stufarq wrote:And I believe that Burn is one of the finest songs ever written about waffles and marmalade.
No, that one's about
toast, obviously. Silly man.
I think you'll find that waffles can be burned too. I have conducted many experiments to prove the case.
Posted: 02 Dec 2008, 00:22
by DancingtheGhost
Have to agree with nodubmanshouts on this one. Think he(or she) sums it up pretty well. Though some of the new songs are probably about sex, also.