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Eldritch

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 16:12
by Debi
Where'd he get the name from?

I understand that Taylor would be a tad dull for a bombastic love god but "Eldritch"?

Anyone know?

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 16:42
by Quiff Boy
it means eerie or unnatural, and is a word made popular by h.p. lovecraft

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=eldritch

he was a bit of a goth in his younger days ;)

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 16:57
by markfiend
Back in the late 70s / early 80s, it was standard punk and post-punk practice to carry on signing on the dole while you were in a band. An unlikely-sounding stage name was de riguer unless you wanted the DHSS to catch up with you via reading the music press...

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 17:10
by Quiff Boy
the story i've heard (firsthand from marx), which doesn't seem to fit 100% with the timelines we all know about, is that they were about to be interviewed by nme (or was it melody maker? i forget) and they heard that fellow leeds band gang of four had been in the papers the week before with their real names and gotten in trouble with the dhss, so they made up nicknames for the interview :D

i dont know where andy came up with his surname from, or how long he'd been thinking about it, but when they first met, clare always used to think mark was called gary and it had become a bit of a an injoke, so it seemed natural for him to become gary marx (eg: marx = mark's)

they couldn't think of anything for craig so they used his old school nickname: lurch

they continued to call him lurch for the first few interviews. not sure when exactly, or why, they stopped. possibly he'd stopped signing on by then...?

marx has since expressed his regret at not using his real first name, and just using a fake surname, like eldritch did... its caused him much confusion over the years :lol:

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 17:31
by dora
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:innocent:

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 18:34
by bookish
So what is Gary Marx's real name?

It never crossed my mind it was a pseudonym.

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 18:44
by weebleswobble
bookish wrote:So what is Gary Marx's real name?

It never crossed my mind it was a pseudonym.
Leonard Short-Short Pants







I may be fibbing :wink:

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 19:34
by ribbons69
markfiend wrote:Back in the late 70s / early 80s, it was standard punk and post-punk practice to carry on signing on the dole while you were in a band. An unlikely-sounding stage name was de riguer unless you wanted the DHSS to catch up with you via reading the music press...
Stand up New Model Army's Slade the Leveller.....

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 20:59
by mh
bookish wrote:So what is Gary Marx's real name?

It never crossed my mind it was a pseudonym.
Mark Pairman (or Pearman, depending on the source you take it from) is the man. :D

Quiffy can probably confirm which is correct.

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 23:08
by Quiff Boy
mh wrote:
bookish wrote:So what is Gary Marx's real name?

It never crossed my mind it was a pseudonym.
Mark Pairman (or Pearman, depending on the source you take it from) is the man. :D

Quiffy can probably confirm which is correct.
pearman :)

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 23:42
by silentNate
You lot are just a bunch of middle-class snitches selling out the names of the working class to The Man :(

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 09:27
by Debi
Quiff Boy wrote:the story i've heard (firsthand from marx), which doesn't seem to fit 100% with the timelines we all know about, is that they were about to be interviewed by nme (or was it melody maker? i forget) and they heard that fellow leeds band gang of four had been in the papers the week before with their real names and gotten in trouble with the dhss, so they made up nicknames for the interview :D

i dont know where andy came up with his surname from, or how long he'd been thinking about it, but when they first met, clare always used to think mark was called gary and it had become a bit of a an injoke, so it seemed natural for him to become gary marx (eg: marx = mark's)

they couldn't think of anything for craig so they used his old school nickname: lurch

they continued to call him lurch for the first few interviews. not sure when exactly, or why, they stopped. possibly he'd stopped signing on by then...?

marx has since expressed his regret at not using his real first name, and just using a fake surname, like eldritch did... its caused him much confusion over the years :lol:

this is all interesting thanks : )

funny - back in my goth days i had a friend who was an anorexic and for some strange reason when she came to my house didn't sit on a chair but on the floor against the wall - my dad used to call her "lurch"!!

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 09:44
by Debi
Quiff Boy wrote:it means eerie or unnatural, and is a word made popular by h.p. lovecraft

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=eldritch

he was a bit of a goth in his younger days ;)

yup - i always thought that it had a very goth ring to it. how comes von really tries to distance himself from anything goth?

i especially found it ironic that they recruited Pat whom was the epitome of all things goth looking!!

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 10:37
by Quiff Boy
Debi wrote:
Quiff Boy wrote:it means eerie or unnatural, and is a word made popular by h.p. lovecraft

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=eldritch

he was a bit of a goth in his younger days ;)

yup - i always thought that it had a very goth ring to it. how comes von really tries to distance himself from anything goth?

i especially found it ironic that they recruited Pat whom was the epitome of all things goth looking!!
that always amused me too :lol:

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 10:54
by Debi
in fact i wonder what she looks like nowadays!?

anyone know?

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 11:05
by xfloorshowx
Debi wrote:in fact i wonder what she looks like nowadays!?

anyone know?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Patricia- ... 6969068980 :innocent:

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 11:10
by Debi
NOOOOOOO :eek:

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 11:13
by Quiff Boy

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 11:20
by Debi
phew - thats better. so she's only 47!

she does sort of remind me in some of the pictures of a dark version of the barmaid in coronation street!! whats her name - steves mum?!

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 11:30
by markfiend
:eek: Surely you don't mean Beverly Callard? (Liz McDonald)

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We may have to inflict a stabbing :twisted:

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 11:35
by Debi
oh christ on a bike look at that picture LOL!!!!

well not in that picture!!

back track back track - maybe i was thinking of someone else!?

whoops!

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 11:56
by Quiff Boy

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 11:58
by Debi
aarrrgggghhhhh

but actually............. : )

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 11:59
by Quiff Boy
similar hairstyle ;)

Posted: 31 Mar 2009, 12:01
by Debi
theres deffo a similarity there

IGMC!!