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about quality of the radio sessions and the floorshow ep

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 09:06
by jost 7
i recently remastered the radio sessions and the floorshow ep, basically the clean recordings which are based on the re-broadcasts. peel 82 and jensen 83 really did turn out fantastic, do now have a little more rawness, adding lots of atmosphere.

the peel84 session really makes me wonder, its dull and especially andrews voice is not very good. are there different versions in good quality out there, real different versions having been mixed differently? i did remaster but cant say that i am too happy with it yet.
very strange is also the floorshow ep. i have this flac version directly from gary's tape which sounds incredible flat. and for lights i do have a different version which really makes me believe that it was mixed differently, not sounding different due to copying/pressing/altering (how many demo-versions of lights do exist - the versions doing the rounds are all from the floorshow ep/kenny giles it seems). concerning the floorshow ep i really do not know how it actually sounded. my remasters are now much more balanced and lively, but i am not shure if this was like that in real.

any infos would be great

btw, the first "pressinsg" of the cd of above mentioned material did delilght me in an incredible way. the first two sessions are among the best the sisters ever did,

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 12:11
by DocSommer
Aren't there very clean DAB based recordings of these sessions out there?

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 12:28
by jost 7
DocSommer wrote:Aren't there very clean DAB based recordings of these sessions out there?
as i said, i used these clean versions - but they do also sound flat in terms of atmosphere, thats why i did adapt them.
peel84 simply sounds a little dull and liveless at the same time, while the floorshow ep from flac is another story. the drums in lights are incredibly flat compared to other versions, being exactly the same recording. floorshow and teachers do have an other origin than lights, which sounds different to the same track sourced from before the flood/kenny g./portastudio.

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 13:03
by DocSommer
Ah ok - I'm just lestening the the DAB broadcast of the radio sessions and if I should rate the stuff (unfortunately I don't have proper filenames or an info.txt):

1969 - neat
alice - very neat
emma - very neat
floorshow/alice - slight poorish and fluttering sound at the first seconds - the rest is quite OK but not as good as the recordings listed above
good things - yes that's very neat again
no time to cry - dito
Poison-Door - sounds a bit muffy but very good with a slight high boost
Walk Away - very good but better with a slight low boost

Of course these ratings can't be compared with todays state of the art productions.

Posted: 23 Sep 2009, 14:03
by jost 7
DocSommer wrote:Ah ok - I'm just lestening the the DAB broadcast of the radio sessions and if I should rate the stuff (unfortunately I don't have proper filenames or an info.txt):

1969 - neat
alice - very neat
emma - very neat
floorshow/alice - slight poorish and fluttering sound at the first seconds - the rest is quite OK but not as good as the recordings listed above
good things - yes that's very neat again
no time to cry - dito
Poison-Door - sounds a bit muffy but very good with a slight high boost
Walk Away - very good but better with a slight low boost

Of course these ratings can't be compared with todays state of the art productions.
your ratings are quite as it is, floorshow always sounds of less quality but this is the actual bass sound at the beginning i guess, and when the doctor kicks in it sounds all fine.
after several takes i am now happy with the current version of the 84 session. the vocals in poison door feature a very strange, almost vocoder like reverb/echo which do give the recording this muffled atmosphere. after reducing these frequencies and additional edits it now sounds much better overall