Heartland

Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures.


Believe it or not, I've managed to avoid this for twenty plus years.
Turns out it's rather a good album.

Guess I better listen to Closer and Still, too.

No, really get into UP first, give it time (a few weeks) then move on...
approach Closer with care, I bought it the week it was released and couldn't listen to it after just one play, it depressed me sooooooo much - FACT! I took it back to the shop the next day.
Still I find a bit of a mish mash and haven't returned since the 80s.
Heart & Soul overwhelmed me - there was just too much.
Recently I have been cruising (to and from work) to the snouds of Permanent. That's one damn fine comp!

Erudite wrote:Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures.


Believe it or not, I've managed to avoid this for twenty plus years.
Turns out it's rather a good album.

Guess I better listen to Closer and Still, too.

Just buy this Don

James Blast wrote: approach Closer with care, I bought it the week it was released and couldn't listen to it after just one play, it depressed me sooooooo much - FACT! I took it back to the shop the next day.

True to the spirit of Poe's "imp of the perverse" I find myself strangely compelled to play Closer...

Erudite wrote:

James Blast wrote: approach Closer with care, I bought it the week it was released and couldn't listen to it after just one play, it depressed me sooooooo much - FACT! I took it back to the shop the next day.

True to the spirit of Poe's "imp of the perverse" I find myself strangely compelled to play Closer...

I always found Unknown Pleasures claustrophobic not Closer. Closer has a much warmer feel. Still is basically a live album with a Peel Session added. If you can get Substance, that's got the Singles and B-sides on

I found Closer to be extremely heavy-going stuff, and very rarely listen to the full thing. No denying that it's excellent, but stylistically it's very disjointed, with each song sounding almost completely unlike any of the others. Weird apocalyptic dub noises, electro dance, string symphonies, drum 'n' bass, snarly guitars and all the rest. Not easy listening at all.

Overall there's only about 2 tracks on it that sound like they're the same band as made Unknown Pleasures.

Agree with the Big Yin about Substance, it's probably the best one to listen to next.

mh wrote:Overall there's only about 2 tracks on it that sound like they're the same band as made Unknown Pleasures.

That were the whole point, Barney and Hooky hated Unknown Pleasures and wanted the next yin to be different, particularly as they had all started messing around with synths and were listening to lots of Krautrock

Closer = claustrophobic, cold - a feeling that life is pointless pervades
not a fun listen but certainly cathartic

mh wrote:
Agree with the Big Yin about Substance, it's probably the best one to listen to next.

Righty-ho!

James Blast wrote:Closer = claustrophobic, cold - a feeling that life is pointless pervades
not a fun listen but certainly cathartic

Sounds like they're playing my songs.

My life is like a bad C&W song at the moment.

After listening to Closer,you realise that Mr Curtis is indeed writing his own epitaph.
It is a brilliant,yet tragic,piece of art.

And already we have that famed Heartland split of opinion!

James Blast wrote:Closer = claustrophobic, cold - a feeling that life is pointless pervades
not a fun listen but certainly cathartic

I often listen to it afore sleep beckons!

Erudite wrote:And already we have that famed Heartland split of opinion!

Big Si wrote:

James Blast wrote:Closer = claustrophobic, cold - a feeling that life is pointless pervades
not a fun listen but certainly cathartic

I often listen to it afore sleep beckons!

I don't remember them playing it that nicht at the Phono

After watching the Joy Division documentary,Hooky and Barney were indeed upset with UP and wanted originally a more harder sound,as it was Martin Hannett who added all the elevetor-and other sounds-to the mix.

James Blast wrote:

Big Si wrote:

James Blast wrote:Closer = claustrophobic, cold - a feeling that life is pointless pervades
not a fun listen but certainly cathartic

I often listen to it afore sleep beckons!

I don't remember them playing it that nicht at the Phono

That were the voice of Francis, very soothing

Though the sisters are my favourite band, there are three records i feel nothing can stand next to them :
falaa and the 2 jd lp's.

Silence is platinum wrote:Though the sisters are my favourite band, there are three records i feel nothing can stand next to them :
falaa and the 2 jd lp's.

FALALALALA? Nah....

What took me so long?


And now it seems
as if we're used to the shegree
We made our beds
and now we hate where these beds be
Took nothing at all to part this Red Sea
I'm a shackled child
singing the good song of Freedom
They've got no pride
they interrupt our grieving
Tear drop dropping
for the pain of the world
My best friend dies
when she was just a young girl
Left me here, to fend for myself
Now the pain never leaves
We just learn to cope
so when the devil needs haning
will you tie up the rope and shout PULL!
Let's put an end to this bull
zen thing
How many years
before we pratice what we preach
How many years
before we truly clinch the peak
Only to find that
there is no honey on the moon
Official goon
with the unofficial croon

I'm All Things to All Men
All of the Women
All the Children
Just say when
and I'll take you to my Tardis
Who's the Hardest
Who's the Hardest (4x)

16 bar cycles
heart felt recital
from the wacky blacky man
they should have called me Michael
Look at the monster you make
look at the monster you pay
But you claim no responsibility
cause it's each to his self
in these times that we live
Does God have a sense of humour
then the joke's on us
Cause we're chasing our tails
for how long
The tussle makes us how strong
vintage poor people fun
If we could ease up
on these booze and fags
then, just maybey
life wouldn't be so mad
Be a man my dad said
but what the hell he know
he lost his dreams
he lost his flow
And I don't wanna be alone
I'm born King
so where's my throne
I'm too intense
I'm too deep
I'm too nice for life
So what makes this place so nervous?

I'm All Things to All Men
All of the Women
All the Children
Just say when
and I'll take you to my Tardis
Who's the Hardest
Who's the Hardest (4x)

Look at the monster you make
look at the monster you pay
But you claim no responsibility
but you claim not
We're searching for Jezus
but I'll be damned
if I'll be crucified by 10,000 spies
compulsive lies
They Hate Me
They Love Me
They Hate Me

Cause I'm All Things to All Men, All of the Women, All the Children
Just say when and I'll take you to my Tardis
Who's the Hardest, Who's the Hardest


IZ.

a) Why The Face is that bunch of doggerel and verbiage?
b) what's a "shegree"?
c) can I buy one and will it keep me warm?

James Blast wrote:a) Why The Face is that bunch of doggerel and verbiage?
b) what's a "shegree"?

It's a dub thaang, ask yer Mon Koen!

(or ask the slang dictionary)

IZ.

no, I will not!

It's alright Don I only listened to FALAA for the first time last year. And that's after being into the Sisters since I was 14!

boudicca wrote:It's alright Don I only listened to FALAA for the first time last year. And that's after being into the Sisters since I was 14!

Isn't that the best thing about Sisters fans, even though there's only three albums to listen to, most of them ignore half

Obviousman wrote:

boudicca wrote:It's alright Don I only listened to FALAA for the first time last year. And that's after being into the Sisters since I was 14!

Isn't that the best thing about Sisters fans, even though there's only three albums to listen to, most of them ignore half

That's one & a half albums then.