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Reptiles and lizards
Posted: 10 Jun 2003, 14:21
by MrChris
Okay, I'm still doing my bit to sustain discussion of lyrics. It's why I'm a Sisters fan, so it's the least I could do.
Here's today's puzzler.
AE makes reference to reptiles and lizards as a stand-in for politicians. So, the 'reptile house' is the Houses of Parliament, George Bush Senior is the 'blizzard king' in Vision Thing (okay, it's a mixed metaphor, but if you take out the reference to snow/drugs, the lizard king is basically the top politician, right?). [n.b. I assume the connection between the lizard king and the drugs metphor of Anaconda is coincidental - unless anyone thinks differently?]
I read somewhere that reptiles are supposed to represent primal evil or something. But where does this reference come from? Is it from mythology? Jungian psychology? A specific book? Or did AE make it up?
Does anyone know anything about where all this came from?
If anyone's interested...
Posted: 10 Jun 2003, 19:50
by paint it black
the snake in the garden of eden
or is that too obvious
Posted: 10 Jun 2003, 20:03
by dead stars
Jim Morrison? (also known as Lizzard King)
Posted: 11 Jun 2003, 11:25
by MrChris
Hmmm, the snake in the garden of eden...now there's an idea...
I shall think about that...
Re: Reptiles and lizards
Posted: 11 Jun 2003, 13:04
by paint it black
MrChris wrote:Okay, I'm still doing my bit to sustain discussion of lyrics. It's why I'm a Sisters fan, so it's the least I could do.
Here's today's puzzler.
AE makes reference to reptiles and lizards as a stand-in for politicians. So, the 'reptile house' is the Houses of Parliament, George Bush Senior is the 'blizzard king' in Vision Thing (okay, it's a mixed metaphor, but if you take out the reference to snow/drugs, the lizard king is basically the top politician, right?). [n.b. I assume the connection between the lizard king and the drugs metphor of Anaconda is coincidental - unless anyone thinks differently?]
I read somewhere that reptiles are supposed to represent primal evil or something. But where does this reference come from? Is it from mythology? Jungian psychology? A specific book? Or did AE make it up?
Does anyone know anything about where all this came from?
If anyone's interested...
actually
there's a nice twist in the book "them" where the world leaders all go to some sort of summer camp run by giant lizards
and no its not fiction, its conspiracy
The Bilderberg Group
Posted: 11 Jun 2003, 13:08
by MrChris
The book "them" by whom? I don't know it...sounds like Robert Anton Wilson on acid - oh no, hold on, that's a tautology...
Posted: 11 Jun 2003, 13:17
by paint it black
MrChris wrote:The book "them" by whom? I don't know it...sounds like Robert Anton Wilson on acid - oh no, hold on, that's a tautology...
i thought that was
Jackie on acid
seriously
Jon Ronson, if i remember right
was a best seller. may still be
must dash, the hooters gone
like a pavlovian dog i must answer to my masters call
re: reptiles
Posted: 13 Jun 2003, 12:53
by itnAklipse
As for the garden of eden metaphor, that can hardly be the source as christianity copied everything from prior sources so as to make christianity more easily palatable for the heathens. The earliest snake i can think of is Ourobouros, the symbol where a snake is eating it's own tail, symbolising the cyclic time, our confined universe and nature. So that one wasn't yet evil, but it doesn't take a good imagination to think of why christians would make snake the evil-doer, as snake represents a naturalistic heathen universe that was to be demolished to give ground for Jehova's idea of the world, where the physical universe itself is leaning towards evil (no need to get into a theological discussion about different views of different christian cults, though the gnostics probably had a bit different views).
The reasons why the ancients chose a snake eating it's own tail are mystical and have nothing to do with that snake was considered evil...just that snake represents something of the nature of the universe per se.
dei
Posted: 13 Jun 2003, 17:11
by MrChris
I remember David Icke thought the world was run by giant lizards too...but that post-dates the reptile house. Darn, I was sure AE was referring to the former goalkeeper for a minute...
Posted: 14 Jun 2003, 15:09
by paint it black
MrChris wrote:I remember David Icke thought the world was run by giant lizards too...but that post-dates the reptile house. Darn, I was sure AE was referring to the former goalkeeper for a minute...
yeah David Ike is interviewed in the book, he spends about a month trailing around with him