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5 Top musicians who are thieving bastards
Posted: 11 May 2010, 17:08
by James Blast
let's see if I can score zero replies with this one...
http://www.cracked.com/article_18500_th ... tards.html
don't worry, it's not all words, there's audio to back the case up
Posted: 11 May 2010, 19:18
by mh
No Spacemen 3 in the list?
Posted: 11 May 2010, 19:52
by Maisey
Let's not forget Nivana's "interpretation" of Eighties by Killing Joke.
Posted: 11 May 2010, 20:03
by boudicca
Oh right, I thought I was the only person who noticed that
D'oh!
Posted: 11 May 2010, 20:09
by Bartek
someone pointed that "more" by here-well-known-band is quite similar to some DM song from "Violator" (dun't remember what - too much butter and meat), especially intro and as i checked it is indeed "close" but it's hard to say who borrow idea from who cause both bands where in the same studio during same time and release album in the same year.
Posted: 11 May 2010, 21:57
by Pista
No Oasis??
Actually shocked they haven't been in court yet (for nicking cr@p that is)
Posted: 11 May 2010, 22:00
by James Blast
Posted: 12 May 2010, 10:27
by markfiend
Steal from one person, it's theft.
Steal from two people, it's derivative.
Steal from three or more people, it's influenced by an eclectic knowledge of music history.
Posted: 12 May 2010, 10:34
by Izzy HaveMercy
markfiend wrote:Steal from one person, it's theft.
Steal from two people, it's derivative.
Steal from three or more people, it's influenced by an eclectic knowledge of music history.
Steal from your OWN band time and again and you're called Nickelback.
IZ.
Posted: 12 May 2010, 10:41
by markfiend
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:markfiend wrote:Steal from one person, it's theft.
Steal from two people, it's derivative.
Steal from three or more people, it's influenced by an eclectic knowledge of music history.
Steal from your OWN band time and again and you're called Nickelback.
IZ.
Back to the original linky from
Blast I was aware of the fact that The Zep "borrowed" a number of blues classics, especially on the first two albums ("Lemon Song" springs to mind) but nicking off your contemporaries is a bit sh!tty.
Comedy, not music, but I understand that there are rumours about Peter "garlic bread" Kaye being a thieving bastard too...
Posted: 12 May 2010, 13:49
by abridged
Talent borrows. Genius steals.
Not justifying Led Zep in any way shape or format....
Posted: 12 May 2010, 15:25
by boudicca
markfiend wrote:Back to the original linky from Blast I was aware of the fact that The Zep "borrowed" a number of blues classics, especially on the first two albums ("Lemon Song" springs to mind) but nicking off your contemporaries is a bit sh!tty.
It's virtually impossible NOT to borrow if you want to play the blues though. Same three chords, laid out in one of a couple of basic formats... then once you're limited by the number of notes you can use in a melody over that, you can only come up with so many combinations really. It's pretty inevitable some of them are going to sound the same. And that applies to a lesser extent to rock and roll as well. I often wonder how many cases of plagiarism are less a case of deliberate "nicking", and more the result of a lack of imagination and a fear of trying out more unusual chords and scales because it will sound less commercial.
That probably explains why the only Led Zep song I've heard that I really like is Kashmir - all that Phrygian mode ak-shun!
Posted: 12 May 2010, 15:47
by James Blast
Eh!? but yore a gurl, gurls dinna understand music
Posted: 12 May 2010, 15:53
by Sita
NOW someone must die
Posted: 12 May 2010, 18:23
by boudicca
James Blast wrote:Eh!? but yore a gurl, gurls dinna understand music
Bah! Since when did I care about sh!te like that. You and your oppressive gender stereotypes
Posted: 12 May 2010, 18:25
by mh
One for the Coldsh*ite fans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5zTuVhNs5c
Dreams Burn Down by Ride.
Posted: 12 May 2010, 21:30
by sam1
all of this just convinces me that we live in an age of refinement,,not in an age of originality-no doubt someone on here will correct me
Posted: 13 May 2010, 00:45
by EvilBastard
mh wrote:No Spacemen 3 in the list?
Nay Soop Draggonnes neither...
Posted: 13 May 2010, 09:58
by Norman Hunter
Bartek wrote:someone pointed that "more" by here-well-known-band is quite similar to some DM song from "Violator" (dun't remember what - too much butter and meat), especially intro and as i checked it is indeed "close" but it's hard to say who borrow idea from who cause both bands where in the same studio during same time and release album in the same year.
Nah, not convinced on that one. Plus DM had left Puk by the time the Sisters had set up camp.
Posted: 15 May 2010, 20:57
by James Blast
sam1 wrote:all of this just convinces me that we live in an age of refinement,,not in an age of originality-no doubt someone on here will correct me
corrected
happy now?
shit, what have I done, this man is cooking a meal for me next Sunday!
Posted: 16 May 2010, 13:51
by moses
The m*****n - Wasteland : Echo & The Bunnymen - Cutter
Posted: 16 May 2010, 14:17
by DerekR
moses wrote:The m*****n - Wasteland : Echo & The Bunnymen - Cutter
and again
Can't see (or hear) that one myself.
Similar bassline but that's about it.
Posted: 16 May 2010, 15:18
by Pista
She Wants Revenge. This is The End= Dept. S. Is Vic There?
Posted: 16 May 2010, 15:59
by DeWinter
Bartek wrote:someone pointed that "more" by here-well-known-band is quite similar to some DM song from "Violator" (dun't remember what - too much butter and meat), especially intro and as i checked it is indeed "close" but it's hard to say who borrow idea from who cause both bands where in the same studio during same time and release album in the same year.
I suppose the most obvious rip-off by that band in particular is "We are the same, Suzanne"/"I wanna be adored" by TSR. Which is a great shame, as it's the best tune since anything on Floodland.
Posted: 16 May 2010, 16:17
by metal on metal
A few rip-offs...
Queen Bitch (David Bowie) = Three Steps to Heaven (Eddie Cochran)
Red Sails (David Bowie) = Monza (Harmonia)
Love Removal Machine (The Cult) = Start Me Up (The Rolling Stones)
Christine (The House of Love) = Over You (Roxy Music)
Inbetween Days (The Cure) = Dreams Never End (New Order)
All The Way (New Order) = Just Like Heaven (The Cure)
Athlete Cured (The Fall) = Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight (Spinal Tap)
Not too sure how intentional that last one was, mind you