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A long time ago now, but an aquainitance who had recorded and was selling/ trading a video of the RAH gig (this was London late 85/early 86) was "pursued" by WEA ref copywright infringement. As part of the cease and desist type operation he was shown a copy of the original contract. I always recall him saying he wished he'd kept it/obtained a copy.....Prescott wrote:This is an excellent article on recording contracts in the UK.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr07/a ... tracts.htm
Ever wonder what kind of contract the Sisters signed to?
Odd considering:Randall Flagg wrote: A long time ago now, but an aquainitance who had recorded and was selling/ trading a video of the RAH gig (this was London late 85/early 86) was "pursued" by WEA ref copywright infringement. As part of the cease and desist type operation he was shown a copy of the original contract. I always recall him saying he wished he'd kept it/obtained a copy.....
Flagg
I could understand Polygram pursuing your friend but what interest did WEA have when they didn't hold any rights to the video? Unless, I suppose, they funded the tour but I'd still have thought they'd leave it to Polygram.The official site FAQ wrote: The band was on WEA Records at the time. Why was 'Wake' released by Polygram?
WEA didn't want to fund the project.
It's a long time ago now so I can't be sure, but the copyright on the tracks on Wake resided with WEA. As far as I can recall it was not a Polygram driven thing which would leave, WEA, Candlemasse or Von.stufarq wrote:Odd considering:Randall Flagg wrote: A long time ago now, but an aquainitance who had recorded and was selling/ trading a video of the RAH gig (this was London late 85/early 86) was "pursued" by WEA ref copywright infringement. As part of the cease and desist type operation he was shown a copy of the original contract. I always recall him saying he wished he'd kept it/obtained a copy.....
Flagg
I could understand Polygram pursuing your friend but what interest did WEA have when they didn't hold any rights to the video? Unless, I suppose, they funded the tour but I'd still have thought they'd leave it to Polygram.The official site FAQ wrote: The band was on WEA Records at the time. Why was 'Wake' released by Polygram?
WEA didn't want to fund the project.
WEA wouldn't own the recording copyright unless they funded it. They'd own all studio audio recordings because they paid for them but filmed footage comes under a different clause and, back then when the home video market was still very new, wouldn't have been a standard part of the contract. There could have been an additional clause giving WEA video rights but then the video wouldn't have been funded and released by Polygram.Randall Flagg wrote:It's a long time ago now so I can't be sure, but the copyright on the tracks on Wake resided with WEA. As far as I can recall it was not a Polygram driven thing which would leave, WEA, Candlemasse or Von.
a) Yes. Happens all the time.million voices wrote:Regarding the contract and the split with the band
If Eldritch had walked away and left the other boys with the name "The Sisters of Mercy"
(sort of like Gabriel did with Genesis)
a) - Could he have done that? I mean walked away and recorded and toured as Eldritch or whatever - started again.
and
b) - Would that have absolved him of all contractual obligations - Was the contract with the band rather than the individual?
Anybody have any idea?
WIKIPEDIA wrote:After the “Sisterhood fiasco� [12] Eldritch decided to continue under the name The Sisters of Mercy: “I think that reflected rather badly on the name The Sisters of Mercy and it's probably due for re-instatement for that reason if no other.� [7] “I couldn't have gotten rid of the name even if I'd tried. So changing it wouldn't have made any sense. I'm still writing and recording the songs in very much the same way.� [2]
Think that WEA were hoping to get the Mish but wanted them to bring in a vocalist, as they didn't rate Waynes efforts on the microphone. Didn't Wayne mention WEAs suggestions of Andi Sex Gang/Gavin Virgin Prune ......and Sal Solo!stufarq wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:b) No. He would almost certainly still have been under to contract to WEA as a solo artist. In The Mish's biography Names Are For Tombstones, Baby, there's a story about how Wayne and Craig should have been tied to WEA too but their demos were conveniently left lying around for them to steal and no-one tried to stop them from finding another label. (I may be misremembering the exact details but the point is that everyone was still technically under contract to WEA.)million voices wrote:
Now that you mention it, Sal Solo rings a bell.Spiggy's hat wrote:Think that WEA were hoping to get the Mish but wanted them to bring in a vocalist, as they didn't rate Waynes efforts on the microphone. Didn't Wayne mention WEAs suggestions of Andi Sex Gang/Gavin Virgin Prune ......and Sal Solo!
When Wayne/The Mish refused the above suggestions it all went quite with WEA & so as you say, they rush released the single on CHapter 22 & were never pursued by WEA.