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Is there any truth to the rumour (I know - "here we go again") that Von has ever been involved in the production of any techno records (other than SSV)? Or even if not, does anyone know where and why the rumour started?

I don't know if Von has any track record of having any involvement with (or affinity for) dance music at all... Gift and the Die Krupps 'Fatherland' remix is the only other slightly-techno-ey records that come to mind.

I do recall an old NME interview in '92 where he said something like 'I'd rather lie with my head under a dripping tap than listen to a techno track.' Was he protesting too much, and was/is a closet Raver?

He's occasionally spotted at Faux-Techno shindigs like Infest...

Si Denbigh (March Violets/Nurse to the Doktor) spent much of the last 15 years involved with various electronic projects (everything from dirty underground techno to chilled out funky house), so there's every chance he and Von worked on something together - doesn't mean you or I would have heard it though.

A lot of these things occur as live DJ sets in jumping, pumping clubs under the ground in Berlin and leave little trace of themselves in the vinyl record. Thus, the best place to hear any of Von's (theoretical) techno output would have been by accident in 1997 while trying to force some white gunk to dissolve into your gums - not the internet in 2011.

But it's not beyond the bounds of reason that Von got the DJ bug back then, and has in an occasional drunken stupour accidentally put his noodlings onto a hard disk somewhere... and uploaded them onto the gigantanet... somewhere out there... beyond the pale blue sky...

Maisey wrote:He's occasionally spotted at Faux-Techno shindigs like Infest...

Si Denbigh (March Violets/Nurse to the Doktor) spent much of the last 15 years involved with various electronic projects (everything from dirty underground techno to chilled out funky house), so there's every chance he and Von worked on something together - doesn't mean you or I would have heard it though.

A lot of these things occur as live DJ sets in jumping, pumping clubs under the ground in Berlin and leave little trace of themselves in the vinyl record. Thus, the best place to hear any of Von's (theoretical) techno output would have been by accident in 1997 while trying to force some white gunk to dissolve into your gums - not the internet in 2011.

What does any of that mean

moses wrote:

Maisey wrote:He's occasionally spotted at Faux-Techno shindigs like Infest...

Si Denbigh (March Violets/Nurse to the Doktor) spent much of the last 15 years involved with various electronic projects (everything from dirty underground techno to chilled out funky house), so there's every chance he and Von worked on something together - doesn't mean you or I would have heard it though.

A lot of these things occur as live DJ sets in jumping, pumping clubs under the ground in Berlin and leave little trace of themselves in the vinyl record. Thus, the best place to hear any of Von's (theoretical) techno output would have been by accident in 1997 while trying to force some white gunk to dissolve into your gums - not the internet in 2011.

What does any of that mean

...that Si Denbigh has been toying with electronica for a while, and AE may have contributed at some point. Also that AE may have DJed for a while, but there's no guarantee that he played anything he wrote himself during his sets.

Dark wrote:

moses wrote:

Maisey wrote:He's occasionally spotted at Faux-Techno shindigs like Infest...

Si Denbigh (March Violets/Nurse to the Doktor) spent much of the last 15 years involved with various electronic projects (everything from dirty underground techno to chilled out funky house), so there's every chance he and Von worked on something together - doesn't mean you or I would have heard it though.

A lot of these things occur as live DJ sets in jumping, pumping clubs under the ground in Berlin and leave little trace of themselves in the vinyl record. Thus, the best place to hear any of Von's (theoretical) techno output would have been by accident in 1997 while trying to force some white gunk to dissolve into your gums - not the internet in 2011.

What does any of that mean

...that Si Denbigh has been toying with electronica for a while, and AE may have contributed at some point. Also that AE may have DJed for a while, but there's no guarantee that he played anything he wrote himself during his sets.

Thank you. Id love to know what he played whilst djing

This is well-stomped ground, given how little has ever been heard of Paris Riots (right, Jacob's Ladder), Leeds Underground or even SSV feat. Dr Avalanche.

http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=15022

http://myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php? ... und#490527

http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=17129

Are they real? Quite.

Will we ever hear them? Unlikely.

I'm pretty sure that I have (or at least had...I did get shot of a LOT of vinyl back in 2003) a white label 12" that had "Leeds Underground" engraved in the middle of the vinyl - nothing at all on the actual label (not even hand written). I remember as it was actually really good and me and mates often wondered who it was. Would have been around 97/98, when I was well into the techno, and from memory is was quite hard-house rather than what I would call techno - kind like some of the stuff that as coming out of Germany/Holland at that time.

Can have a drift thru the boxes if anyone's seriously interested. Be curious to see if I do still actually have it.

Oh yeah, please ... that should be quite interesting ... ...

Being645 wrote:Oh yeah, please ... that should be quite interesting ... ...

No problem - I'm intrigued myself now to see if I still have it! Weird that we wondered who it was by - and Leeds Underground meant nothing to us - and this forum is actually the first time I could associate the name with anything...

Also, I stumbled across another white label recently that I had from the same time - called 'Amphetalog: the Space Project" and looks to have beenreleased around '95 - it was the period after DJ Tim & Misjah had released "Access" and the whole club scene had exploded again - every man and his dog were putting out underground techno tunes - so I would say that this mystery LU 12" comes from that period - not '97 as I originally thought.

Anyhow, I'll update you if I do find it.

bearskin wrote:

Being645 wrote:Oh yeah, please ... that should be quite interesting ... ...

No problem - I'm intrigued myself now to see if I still have it! Weird that we wondered who it was by - and Leeds Underground meant nothing to us - and this forum is actually the first time I could associate the name with anything...

Also, I stumbled across another white label recently that I had from the same time - called 'Amphetalog: the Space Project" and looks to have beenreleased around '95 - it was the period after DJ Tim & Misjah had released "Access" and the whole club scene had exploded again - every man and his dog were putting out underground techno tunes - so I would say that this mystery LU 12" comes from that period - not '97 as I originally thought.

Anyhow, I'll update you if I do find it.

That'd be outstanding - good luck on that, bearskin!

Machine Regime wrote:

bearskin wrote:

Being645 wrote:Oh yeah, please ... that should be quite interesting ... ...

No problem - I'm intrigued myself now to see if I still have it! Weird that we wondered who it was by - and Leeds Underground meant nothing to us - and this forum is actually the first time I could associate the name with anything...

Also, I stumbled across another white label recently that I had from the same time - called 'Amphetalog: the Space Project" and looks to have beenreleased around '95 - it was the period after DJ Tim & Misjah had released "Access" and the whole club scene had exploded again - every man and his dog were putting out underground techno tunes - so I would say that this mystery LU 12" comes from that period - not '97 as I originally thought.

Anyhow, I'll update you if I do find it.

That'd be outstanding - good luck on that, bearskin!

Yeah, absolutely ... ... be the power with you ... ...

sounds interesting...

pikkrong wrote:sounds interesting...

Apologies for the delay. It's been raining non-stop for weeks here and the roof has given up under the strain & decided to leak, which has delayed plans to have a search for the old vinyl..

bearskin wrote: it was the period after DJ Tim & Misjah had released "Access" and the whole club scene had exploded again

Heard that at the "Uk club", Wandsworth, London
Good memory

Did not Von Dj after the show at the Arvika festival in Sweden in 98? Heard someone say that he had done that and that it was only techno.

I always wondered about Von's role (apart from producing, natch) in Dust Up, the amazing ten minute psychedlic disco wig-out on the b-side of the 12" of Salvation's MR (Girl Soul). Pre-dates the Utah Saints by a good five years !

Well, finally fought my way over to the vinyl hoard - and apologies all - it's not there any more. I pinged most of my vinyl in 2003 when we moved to NZ - so it is somewhere in a collection in Bristol... good luck to anyone who finds it!!

I did find my flexidisc of Long Train tho, which I've not seen for years either.

bearskin wrote:Well, finally fought my way over to the vinyl hoard - and apologies all - it's not there any more. I pinged most of my vinyl in 2003 when we moved to NZ - so it is somewhere in a collection in Bristol... good luck to anyone who finds it!!

I did find my flexidisc of Long Train tho, which I've not seen for years either.

So, that Loch Ness monster / Yeti / Chupacabra of a Leeds Underground pressing continues to pass into the mist of myth... or something. Well not to worry, when I get home think I'll whack on my own Long Train - that's not a double-entendre, btw.

It's been so long I don't remember it being a flexi though....

Machine Regime wrote:So, that Loch Ness monster / Yeti / Chupacabra of a Leeds Underground pressing continues to pass into the mist of myth... or something.

When the subject came up a few years ago it was obvious that 2 or 3 forumers had a copy of the record. I get the impression the recording is to be used as currency for rare trades only, and that if anyone would have been kind enough to give us even a 30 sec sample it's value would be zero. A case of the Emperor's new clothes.

Dan wrote:A case of the Emperor's new clothes.

I hear ya, loud and clear!

Machine Regime wrote: It's been so long I don't remember it being a flexi though....

...definitely a flexidisc - didn't it come with the Walk Away 12"?

Sorry about the LU record disappearance - and I'm not fanning the flames of mythdom or holding out on you, honest.

My favourite Von side project is 'the Sisters of Mercy'