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Posted: 15 Nov 2011, 23:54
by itnAklipse
Due to growing discordance (or at the least my awareness thereof) between the worldviews and political philosophies of mine and mr. Eldritch, i have lost all interest in the pursuits - past, present, and future - of TSOM.
Short version: i am not a collectivist, but an individualist, and as such find socialism, in all its forms - both left and right - undefendable.
Long version: you have to figure out for yourself. But i won't hold my breath.
Thank you kindly to the few people i came to know and appreciate around here.
When you gonna wake up, folks?
Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 00:17
by Rise891
So your offing yourself in the trading section? Seems a tad strange to me.
Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 07:44
by Ozpat
Re: end
Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 09:29
by Being645
itnAklipse wrote:Due to growing discordance (or at the least my awareness thereof) between the worldviews and political philosophies of mine and mr. Eldritch, i have lost all interest in the pursuits - past, present, and future - of TSOM.
Short version: i am not a collectivist, but an individualist, and as such find socialism, in all its forms - both left and right - undefendable.
Long version: you have to figure out for yourself. But i won't hold my breath.
Thank you kindly to the few people i came to know and appreciate around here.
When you gonna wake up, folks?
I don't know whether I get you right, itnAklipse, but in the point that fascism shows by its means and conventions, I agree ...
Nonetheless, I think, The Sisters were NOT like that from their beginning and if they got there somehow, that was wrong, but it is nothing that could not be overcome by intelligent creatures.
Apart from the fact, that we all were in it ... and we will not gonna wake up before The Sisters do, or will we - dare? ...
...
I expect you back, soon ...
...
Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 14:03
by weebleswobble
Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 14:52
by lachert
it was nice to trade with you
hope you'll back soon
Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 12:09
by markfiend
IMO one can be an individualist in one's personal sphere yet favour an economic system run on a collectivist basis.
Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 13:24
by Dr Poo
Signing off in trading section. Irony?
Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 15:26
by markfiend
Humanity is a social species. While I value individuality, any attempt at a political system that ignores this undeniable fact is doomed to failure.
Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 16:18
by Dan
Dr Poo wrote:Signing off in trading section. Irony?
Is he offering himself as mp3 or flac?
Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 07:16
by Ozpat
Must be the time of the year....So dark all over Suomi.
Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 08:50
by lazarus corporation
Ozpat wrote:Must be the time of the year....So dark all over Suomi.
Yes, it's that time of year when itnAklipse cuddles up with a semen-stained Ayn Rand book and his own over-compensated inferiority complex.
Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 09:50
by markfiend
Oof.
Re Ayn Rand: As Dorothy Parker once said, (admittedly about a different author) "this is not a book that should be tossed aside lightly. It should be flung with great force."
Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 13:24
by Chairman Bux
Thanks for all the....fish?
Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 14:29
by Silver_Owl
Cheerio cheerio cheerio.....
Posted: 26 Nov 2011, 20:55
by DocSommer
worldviews and political philosophies of mine and mr. Eldritch
Did you get a private audience/chat eith him you walked out disappointed afterwards?
Whatever - thanks for beeing a reliable trader and don't hesitate to get in touch if you find a new passion music wise - I'd be interested to know here this is heading to
Posted: 26 Nov 2011, 21:36
by sisterstekland
You will get back in few years with that
Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 12:44
by Eva
I' with
weebleswobble in either case...
or rather
Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 13:08
by mh
Am I the only one who's failing to see why an artist's political philosophy should impact on your continued enjoyment of their music? It's like, I know Ian Curtis voted Tory and that's against my own political preferences, but I still think JD were an awesome band. Don't see why it should go different with the Sisters.
Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 15:18
by markfiend
You're not the only one.
In Andrew's own words:
Eldritch wrote:I think the great lesson of the 20th century is that you have to separate the ethics from the aesthetics. The Nazis did have the best uniforms, there's no denying it. The great lesson there is that you don't have to agree with what the Nazis did, but, yes, be honest about it, they did have the best uniforms. A lot of people can't come to terms with something as banal as that. They can't admit it, because somehow they feel like they're approving of what the Nazis did.
Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 15:59
by mh
In that case the cause of the problem would lie squarely with the person making the decision rather than with the factors on which the decision is claimed to be based, no?
Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 16:02
by Izzy HaveMercy
mh wrote:In that case the cause of the problem would lie squarely with the person making the decision rather than with the factors on which the decision is claimed to be based, no?
Is that a euphemism for saying itnAklipse is a few cards short of a full deck?
Then...errrrr... yes.
IZ.
Posted: 21 Dec 2011, 16:28
by markfiend
mh wrote:In that case the cause of the problem would lie squarely with the person making the decision rather than with the factors on which the decision is claimed to be based, no?
You might think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.
Posted: 22 Dec 2011, 20:11
by stufarq
mh wrote:Am I the only one who's failing to see why an artist's political philosophy should impact on your continued enjoyment of their music?
No. Just didn't care enough to bother posting. Someone who spends most of his time arguing with people and writing incomprehensible diatribes says they're not going to come and do it any more, you shrug and forget about it.