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Cool. The Doktor is the reason I got into SOM, maybe the only real reason. The drum loops on FALAA is brutal, amazing stuff.

Fun read but nothing exciting really. Thanks anyway!

Agree, nothing new, just this-damn obligation to promote gig.

"We're a working band, we sell a lot of t-shirts."



I also like the fact that the initials of the site are UTR.

About as probing as a non-probey thing .

I'm pretty sure one of their songs has a drum solo...

They didn't ask the question.

robertzombie wrote:I'm pretty sure one of their songs has a drum solo...

kiss the carpet (reprise)?

Aazhyd wrote:They didn't ask the question.

Maybe they knew enough no to.

Quiff Boy wrote:

robertzombie wrote:I'm pretty sure one of their songs has a drum solo...

kiss the carpet (reprise)?

TOL '92 (if not both version)

all the sisters up to and including the floodland album has very distinctive drum fills and snare rolls.

the FALAA stuff in particular has really memorably and recognisable snare rolls: the title track, walk away, nttc, logic, etc

stuff since VT doesn't really have that same level of attention to detail in drum programming as far as i can tell

Quiff Boy wrote:all the sisters up to and including the floodland album has very distinctive drum fills and snare rolls.

the FALAA stuff in particular has really memorably and recognisable snare rolls: the title track, walk away, nttc, logic, etc

stuff since VT doesn't really have that same level of attention to detail in drum programming as far as i can tell

can't agree more.In the "new"songs almost all of the drums sounds pretty the same to me.
Ye,i know they are all live recordings,but still

Quiff Boy wrote:all the sisters up to and including the floodland album has very distinctive drum fills and snare rolls.

the FALAA stuff in particular has really memorably and recognisable snare rolls: the title track, walk away, nttc, logic, etc

stuff since VT doesn't really have that same level of attention to detail in drum programming as far as i can tell

or basslines / guitar parts etc.

Quiff Boy wrote:all the sisters up to and including the floodland album has very distinctive drum fills and snare rolls.

the FALAA stuff in particular has really memorably and recognisable snare rolls: the title track, walk away, nttc, logic, etc

stuff since VT doesn't really have that same level of attention to detail in drum programming as far as i can tell

Completely seconded. And especially the drums programming lay the basic sound carpet so wah, impressingly clear and decided in the older songs ... bass and guitars are more like adding to it ... in no less perfection, but still ...

With VT, the guitars somewhat won over ... also due to the different general approach.

For the "new" songs, I think Adam clearly managed to reintroduce some points along the melodies ... and for Arms, Chris really managed to do that along the sound and the rythm ...

Robson wrote:Please enjoy our majesty

http://www.undertheradar.co.nz/utr/inte ... -Mercy.utr

Lovely. Always pleased to see them doing interviews again ... ...

I'm not good at being a front man in a rock & roll band.

Why?

Well, you need to be outgoing and to have the ability to be a dickhead at all times.

Rubbish, Lemmy is not the least more outgoing or a dickhead all the time at Motörhead gigs! Nor is Bowie. Or Mr. Osterberg.
I really wonder what's the dream behind that? Fred Astaire? ... ... well, probably not ... maybe that chimpanzee Jagger ... ...

I want to be the guy in the office making the phone calls.

We know. And we knew it already from The Damage Done single and with Adrenochrome
we were definitly convinced that - hard to believe - eventually there was "a normal guy in front of a rock and roll band" ... ... ...

the article wrote:(Eldritch butts in)

Who's he interrupting there? He was already the one speaking!

Von wrote:We have a very strange relationship with our fans.

Indeed you do.

Bartek wrote:TOL '92 (if not both version)

Definitely both. (12" versions anyway.)

Quiff Boy wrote:stuff since VT doesn't really have that same level of attention to detail in drum programming as far as i can tell

Summer has a pretty good drum track.

Quiff Boy wrote:all the sisters up to and including the floodland album has very distinctive drum fills and snare rolls.

the FALAA stuff in particular has really memorably and recognisable snare rolls: the title track, walk away, nttc, logic, etc

stuff since VT doesn't really have that same level of attention to detail in drum programming as far as i can tell

this is something about sisters identity, a sad one of course. beginning with vt the doctor got old, bored, trying to impersonate a real drummer, no longer being an intellectual army of heart beats.

and i don't want to add something about the (bass)sounds used by this doctor. elevators have more adventurous sounds these days.

jost 7 wrote:

Quiff Boy wrote:all the sisters up to and including the floodland album has very distinctive drum fills and snare rolls.

the FALAA stuff in particular has really memorably and recognisable snare rolls: the title track, walk away, nttc, logic, etc

stuff since VT doesn't really have that same level of attention to detail in drum programming as far as i can tell

this is something about sisters identity, a sad one of course. beginning with vt the doctor got old, bored, trying to impersonate a real drummer, no longer being an intellectual army of heart beats.

and i don't want to add something about the (bass)sounds used by this doctor. elevators have more adventurous sounds these days.

For me the girls' sound has never stopped improving. I may never get any new material ever again, but at least with the songs they do play, I get sounds that kick the s**t out of the pre-Floodland era era. Sorry.

Changed my mind a little bit - War On Drugs in its original incarnation had lovely drums, bassline & guitar parts, it is a bit of an exception to the rule though

Quiff Boy wrote:all the sisters up to and including the floodland album has very distinctive drum fills and snare rolls.

the FALAA stuff in particular has really memorably and recognisable snare rolls: the title track, walk away, nttc, logic, etc

stuff since VT doesn't really have that same level of attention to detail in drum programming as far as i can tell

Don't forget the variations on that little drum flourish during Vision Thing, or the toms of Something Fast. There has been a tendency to dress it down since then, though. Maybe it's a stylistic choice, given that it probably wouldn't be much of a chore these days to punch in a few extra drum rolls.

Does anyone else listen to the start of 'Rock and a hard place' over and over again?

Thoth_Hermes wrote:Does anyone else listen to the start of 'Rock and a hard place' over and over again?

Yeah, sometimes I do
In the end the remix is better


Nice interview by the way!

centurionofprix wrote:Maybe it's a stylistic choice, given that it probably wouldn't be much of a chore these days to punch in a few extra drum rolls.

I suspect it may have more to do with the songs not being written around the drum rhythms any more. When they first started, the Doktor was a comparitively primitive piece of kit (as was everything) and they had to let him start first before they all joined in to ensure that they'd be playing in time. So (I speculate) there was probably an impetus to write the basic drum track first and then write the rest of the song around it. I think a lot of Sisters songs sound like they're driven by the drums rather than having started with a guitar hook. Even on the studio recordings most of the tracks start with a solo drum intro. By VT they had enough money and technology had advanced enough that they didn't have to record or play live that way so the drum track perhaps became less of a driving force in the writing as well.

Bartek wrote:

Quiff Boy wrote:

robertzombie wrote:I'm pretty sure one of their songs has a drum solo...

kiss the carpet (reprise)?

TOL '92 (if not both version)

TOL would definitely be the top answer on Sisters Family Fortunes. The very nature of the drum machine meant that most tracks (from Anaconda to UTG start with a DA solo, whether a couple of bars (like Dominion) or something briefer (the Eastenders-on-speed drumroll at the start of Walk Away). And on a good night Sister Ray would both start and end with a solo from the good Dok.
Great to read a thread about DA which focuses on the distinctive sound and not what spec it was, who programmed it, what colour the plug was etc.