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When You Don't See Me

Posted: 06 Sep 2012, 20:33
by Being645
Only now I've noticed there seems to be no Merciful Release catalogue# for this single, at least not on discogs ...

And in the Wiki it was wrongly given as MR053 which is the # for Temple Of Love (1992) ...

Does anybody know something about this issue?

Is When You Don't See Me not a "Merciful Release" after all ... :eek: :eek: ...

Posted: 06 Sep 2012, 21:32
by stufarq
It has the MR logo on the back and on the labels but no MR number. The catalogue number is as given at Discogs. Don't know why.

Posted: 07 Sep 2012, 07:43
by Ozpat
I always thought that this issue got the numbers MR53 and TOL 92 is MR053.

Something to do with the fact that is is a German release only?

Posted: 07 Sep 2012, 13:53
by radiojamaica
Ozpat wrote:Something to do with the fact that is is a German release only?
That's what I always thought.

Posted: 07 Sep 2012, 22:41
by stufarq
I'd wondered about that but the French-only release of Alice (with the supposedly white sleeve) has the MR015 number. Mind you, that's just a different edition of a UK release whereas there's no UK edition of WYDSM so maybe that's it.

Posted: 08 Sep 2012, 21:58
by Being645
stufarq wrote:I'd wondered about that but the French-only release of Alice (with the supposedly white sleeve) has the MR015 number. Mind you, that's just a different edition of a UK release whereas there's no UK edition of WYDSM so maybe that's it.
Hhm, according to the Wiki but also according to discogs and the ultimatesistersguide the white-sleeve 7" was released in the UK as well. Could be wrong, though ...

Btw, are there also mispressed 12" Alice EPs :?:

Posted: 08 Sep 2012, 23:53
by Being645
Ozpat wrote:I always thought that this issue got the numbers MR53 and TOL 92 is MR053.

Something to do with the fact that is is a German release only?
I think you're right. The Body Electric single doesn't have a MR# either, but still has the labels ...


EDIT:
Resolved! Thanks to Drsisters, who listed everything thorougly ... :notworthy: ... and thanks of course for the hint!

RESULT:
When You Don't See Me do all have MR53TX catalogue#s and
Temple Of Love (1992) have MR53, MR53T, MR53C, MR53CD and MR53CDX. Well, ok and the promo which has MR53SAM

Hah, pleased ... ;D ...

Posted: 09 Sep 2012, 01:13
by lazarus corporation
Being645 wrote:[
When You Don't See Me do all have MR53TX catalogue#s
I'll believe you, but it's not printed anywhere on the 12" vinyl

Posted: 09 Sep 2012, 05:24
by Being645
lazarus corporation wrote:
Being645 wrote:[
When You Don't See Me do all have MR53TX catalogue#s
I'll believe you, but it's not printed anywhere on the 12" vinyl
... and not on the covers either ... :( ... so, no resolution ...

At least the zeroes are clearly out.

Posted: 09 Sep 2012, 16:16
by stufarq
Being645 wrote:Hhm, according to the Wiki but also according to discogs and the ultimatesistersguide the white-sleeve 7" was released in the UK as well. Could be wrong, though ...
Mine was made in France but still has a MR number.
Being645 wrote:
Ozpat wrote:I always thought that this issue got the numbers MR53 and TOL 92 is MR053.

Something to do with the fact that is is a German release only?
I think you're right. The Body Electric single doesn't have a MR# either, but still has the labels ...
It has the MR logo on both sleeve and label but no MR number on either. It has the CNT number instead, which, if I remember correctly, was due to a distribution problem. And it was released in the UK so that doesn't really support the German-only release theory.
Being645 wrote:Resolved! Thanks to Drsisters, who listed everything thorougly ... :notworthy: ... and thanks of course for the hint!

RESULT:
When You Don't See Me do all have MR53TX catalogue#s and
Temple Of Love (1992) have MR53, MR53T, MR53C, MR53CD and MR53CDX. Well, ok and the promo which has MR53SAM

Hah, pleased ... ;D ...
Why would it have the same catalogue number as TOL? Adding the TX is usually just an indication that it's a second 12" of the same release. And if that was an official catalogue number then surely it would appear on the record. Besides, DrSisters has some of the EastWest catalogue numbers wrong. They should be:
7" 9031-73895-7 (not 9031-73897-0, which is the ltd 12")
12" 9031-73896-0 (not 9031-73897-0, which is still the ltd 12")
12" + patch 9031-73897-0
Promo CD PRCD 8364-2
CD 9031-73896-2

Posted: 09 Sep 2012, 20:30
by Being645
I will check that.

Posted: 09 Sep 2012, 21:19
by paint it black
does UTR1. Pg2 help you?

eta - i've just read my press release for the single and it didn't have an MR reference mentioned

Posted: 10 Sep 2012, 01:03
by Being645
paint it black wrote:does UTR1. Pg2 help you?

eta - i've just read my press release for the single and it didn't have an MR reference mentioned
Thank you! I've integrated that into the page and at the same time learned how to use Caslon Antique in the Wiki ... ;D ...

Now, the page does only need uploading a few more pictures. But not today, i.e. tonight ... :wink: ...




@stufarq

I think the #s are ok now.
As to promos - these have a catagory of their own in the Wiki , because they usually look different
and are therefore not listed among the "regular" releases.

Posted: 10 Sep 2012, 06:19
by Ozpat
I stick with the German release only thing. I must have read it somewhere. It might have been sold in other countries as well in the end but it was supposed to be a Germans only thingy.

Posted: 10 Sep 2012, 12:08
by Being645
Ozpat wrote:I stick with the German release only thing. I must have read it somewhere. It might have been sold in other countries as well in the end but it was supposed to be a Germans only thingy.
Yes, and that's how it's now written in the Wiki - German release only.

Posted: 10 Sep 2012, 13:28
by paint it black
PR is in German only, will try to scan. I have PR for all records, so will try to do all eventually :roll:

Posted: 10 Sep 2012, 22:01
by stufarq
Being645 wrote:@stufarq

I think the #s are ok now.
As to promos - these have a catagory of their own in the Wiki , because they usually look different
and are therefore not listed among the "regular" releases.
Fair enough.
Ozpat wrote:I stick with the German release only thing. I must have read it somewhere. It might have been sold in other countries as well in the end but it was supposed to be a Germans only thingy.
Yes probably. In case it's unclear, I wasn't disputing that in my previous post (it was definitely only released in Germany and that does seem the most likely reason for the lack of a MR number); I just meant that the Body Electric single was a different set of circumstances and doesn't help the case either way.

Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 01:34
by Being645
paint it black wrote:PR is in German only, will try to scan. I have PR for all records, so will try to do all eventually :roll:
Such are the joys of collecting ... true pleasure comes as soon as everything's sorted ... ;D ...