Heartland

Anyone up for a punt?


Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/ult ... ledgemusic

is it worrying that they're having to go down the pledge route for only their second album?

i know many successful recording artists have used pledge (march violets, killing joke, ian mcculloch, ginger wildheart, to name but 4), but they have an existing canon of work and a large & loyal fan base to fall back on

not sure if doing this for a new band will be as successful... (while they're not exactly now, they're certainly not old compares with the 4 i mention above!)

if it were my (relatively) new band and i'd had to use the pledge route to fund recording of my 2nd album, i'd be having a crisis of confidence right now

it feels a bit desperate to me... weren't they tipped to be a(nother) 'next big thing'? has their 15 minutes of fame passed them by?

Pledge (or similar sites) is a tool to go/be really independent. I guess that's qhy they trying to do this.

@Quiffy
Fair point, but I am seeing the Pledge route as just another way to make sales.
Almost "pre-orders" as it were.

Looking at what is constantly saying about the industry, I kind of don't mind paying the band for my goodies up front & hoping they'll actually see a few pennies for their efforts.

It also seems they are going exclusively through Pledge too

http://www.ulteriorlondon.com/

Like Bartek said. It's independence

yeah, independence & pre-orders i get. definitely. and i'm not averse to backing this kind of thing (be it pledge for music or kickstarter for other stuff), i just remember all the hype and expectancy around ulterior when their 1st album came out.

my impression is that if things had gone according to plan they wouldn't have had to go down the route of independence & pre-orders.

just seems weird to me.

maybe i've still got an old fashioned view of the recording industry after all

i wish them the best of luck, obviously. not really my cup of tea, but they made quite a nice noise on at least half their 1st album

Quiff Boy wrote:
my impression is that if things had gone according to plan they wouldn't have had to go down the route of independence & pre-orders.

just seems weird to me.

I think you cracked it with the word "industry".

All industries are a bit frakked these days & I guess folks are trying to take it into the own hands.

Seeing this pledge idea just echoes that IMO.

After all, the music industry doesn't appear to help many these days. At least not the ones that could prolly do with help.

Take The Sisters.
Their claim is that playing live is what pays the bills & not making records (via a label).
Whether that's an excuse for being a lazy sod or not is a different discussion, but it's pretty feasible.

Funding/ securing funds for your own project is also going to be a PITA though. I would guess that all the marketing work fall at your own doorstep & given how carp Ulterior's homepage is, they might have some problems.
Unless they rely solely on word of mouth & farcebook

Whatever it is, Ulterior are wonderful and I will clearly support this ... ...

Thanks for the link, Pista ... ...

Just listened to the teaser.

Sounding very good indeed

The only thing is that PledgeMusic for a starting band can turn out quite disastrous.

For old bands they can count on many old supporters and they will achieve their goal more easily.

Independence is also a claim I read; I don't know whether PledgeMusic is so 'independent', it's just old wine in new bags as far as I see it.

I think the best guess is: Ulterior are good, but no label is willing to pick them up, they are eager to release, but don't have the money to go to the presses themselves, so they have to use Pledge to sponsor them.

IZ.

Izzy HaveMercy wrote: they are eager to release,
IZ.

You listening Von?

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:I think the best guess is: Ulterior are good, but no label is willing to pick them up...

Surely if they were that good they wouldn't have that problem.

Ulterior's self released 2nd album "THE BLEACH ROOM" will be shipped to pledgers on 3rd December 2012. General release is expected in early January.

2012 EUROPEAN HEADLINE TOUR POSTER
http://www.hidden-treasure.de/image/31806570479

08.11.2012: Berlin (DE), Marie Antoinette
09.11.2012: Mainz (DE), Caveau
10.11.2012: Leipzig (DE), Städtisches Kaufhaus
11.11.2012: Hamburg (DE), Übel & Gefährlich
29.11.2012: Bratislava (SK), Sub Club
30.11.2012: Prague (CZ), Chapeau Rouge
01.12.2012: Dresden (DE), Sabotage
12.12.2012: London (UK), The Lexington
14.12.2012: Bochum (DE), Bahnhof Langendreer
15.12.2012: Antwerp (BE), Muziekcentrum Trix (Bimfest)

PLEDGE MUSIC CAMPAIGN
http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/ult ... leachroom/

Sisters fans will remember Ulterior from their opening slots on TSOM's 2009 European tour and 2010's UK show at Leamington Spa. Subsequently Ulterior opened for The March Violets' UK shows in 2010 (Si Denbigh also provided the remix on Ulterior's 2010 single 'Sex War Sex Cars Sex'). Since when Ulterior have played shows in europe with Fields Of The Nephilim, Killing Joke, Nitzer Ebb, Fixmer McCarthey, Clan Of Xymox, UK Decay, Peter Hook and The Light (notorious Joy Division covers band) and many others...

THE BLEACH ROOM ALBUM TEASER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJNnEWnoeNU

i didn't like their previous work, but this sounds realy good!
i might take part on their pledge after all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... PDgSpQVJl8#!

100%. Nice to see they made it.

Release date (for pledgers) 3rd December.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

& the new material is fan frakkin' tastic!!

103%
i have a good feeling about this work, waiting my vinyl to come

I didn't take part in the pledge (I discovered them only a while ago and wasn't quite sure I like them enough) but I've seen them 2 days ago and they were fab. One of best gigs I've been to and I have high standards I'll definitely buy the new CD when it's released..

Caetlin wrote:I didn't take part in the pledge (I discovered them only a while ago and wasn't quite sure I like them enough) but I've seen them 2 days ago and they were fab. One of best gigs I've been to and I have high standards I'll definitely buy the new CD when it's released..

That entire show's on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... VIwZYXYAZc

Pista wrote:

Caetlin wrote:I didn't take part in the pledge (I discovered them only a while ago and wasn't quite sure I like them enough) but I've seen them 2 days ago and they were fab. One of best gigs I've been to and I have high standards I'll definitely buy the new CD when it's released..

That entire show's on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... VIwZYXYAZc

Million thanks

Pista wrote:

Caetlin wrote:I didn't take part in the pledge (I discovered them only a while ago and wasn't quite sure I like them enough) but I've seen them 2 days ago and they were fab. One of best gigs I've been to and I have high standards I'll definitely buy the new CD when it's released..

That entire show's on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... VIwZYXYAZc

Nice ... ... thanks for the link(s) ... sounds great ... ... Also looking forward to their CD release ... ...

Perhaps I'll make it to their show in Bochum on the 14th ... ...

Download now available for pledgers.
& it is stunning!

... arrived here well after Xmas packed in a cool all black air cushion envelope ... that alone looked very tempting already ... ...

I didn't listen to the download. Real CDs are just so much easier to handle. First listen was a shock of loud and crazy ...
Second listen convinced me that this not the kind of music to sit down with a beer at the bar wasting time in casual talk ... ...

Well done, ULTERIOR! ... ... ...


Very danceable ... ...

And also I'm pleased to note that you've grown out of some of your (admittedly cool) singing ideals,

incorporating various others into a very tempting match* ... ... * (if that should be the right expression)

Mine still hasn't arrived

The download's on the iprod, along with the bonus track Arabella, but I really want the shiny thing to appear in my mailbox.

Pista wrote:Mine still hasn't arrived

The download's on the iprod, along with the bonus track Arabella, but I really want the shiny thing to appear in my mailbox.

That's typical for Xmas time. I'm also waiting for things I've purchased by auction on ebay
- at the beginning of December ... delivery to the European continent takes very long this time of year ... *sigh ...

Bonus track? Hell, I should check that ... ...

Being645 wrote:

Pista wrote:Mine still hasn't arrived

The download's on the iprod, along with the bonus track Arabella, but I really want the shiny thing to appear in my mailbox.

That's typical for Xmas time. I'm also waiting for things I've purchased by auction on ebay
- at the beginning of December ... delivery to the European continent takes very long this time of year ... *sigh ...

Bonus track? Hell, I should check that ... ...

Yes, an excellent bonus track, perhaps better than some songs of the main album
They mention that it was written some time after the previous album recordings