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A short piece on the lyrics of our Andy by a good friend of mine. Please be gentle!

http://www.songwritingmagazine.co.uk/ap ... -eldritch/

Thanks for sharing!

Nice article, couldn't agree more.

Thanks a lot for sharing!
Was a pleasure to read

Funny too..a bunch of car mechanics from Stevenage!!

Interesting read, thanks for posting.

Anachonda wrote:Nice article, couldn't agree more.

Me too

I must admit I'd never spotted the (rather obvious in retrospect) Marian / Marina thing.

Very nice read!

IZ.

By rock standards at least this is heady stuff, and a million miles from pseudo-mystical guff about kissing serpents

I thought this was quite funny, I wonder who it could be about

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:Very nice read!

IZ.

agreed... good stuff

SteBacchus wrote:

By rock standards at least this is heady stuff, and a million miles from pseudo-mystical guff about kissing serpents

I thought this was quite funny, I wonder who it could be about

This too

It’s this lyrical complexity, these layers of meaning, that set the Sisters apart from, say, a bunch of car mechanics from Stevenage writing songs based on the films of Sergio Leone.

Very nice read & thanks for sharing

interesting indeed. and i still love AE for show that lyrics can be about something and for making me look for that deeper meaning, TSOM on many way opened my head by showing T.S. Eliot, Blake and others and lots of lot bands.

seudo-mystical guff about kissing serpents

not mystical tis about cherry busting plain and simple

Good article, cheers.

(Minor point... Ely's in Cambridgeshire!)

Excellent article that explains why I love the lyrics so much.

And I didn't know that explanation for the "(version)" either.

Very good read

It’s this lyrical complexity, these layers of meaning, that set the Sisters apart from, say, a bunch of car mechanics from Stevenage writing songs based on the films of Sergio Leone.

Surely its the Nephs songs that were the pseudo-mystical rubbish - it was just their look that's based on Leone for all the "spaghetti metal" tags the music press used (to avoid obvious references to the Girls).Well-written article though, and nice to be reminded that 's lyrics are occasionally about more than just sex'n'drugs'n'rock'n'roll.

Can't really agree with the suggestion that Von's lyrics actually mean something whereas no other band's lyrics mean anything at all. I'm sure I don't need to tell anyone here that most bands' lyrics (goth bands included) mean something and that nearly everyone has covered the same lyrical subjects listed in this article. "By rock standards at least this is heady stuff"? Not really. It's standard stuff, the bread and butter of most lyricists. Don't get me wrong - I'm not criticising Von's lyrics or saying that they don't have great qualities that are all their own; I'm just saying that the idea that he's writing about "all life" while everyone else is "deep and meaningless" is a bit silly and unfair.

markfiend wrote:I must admit I'd never spotted the (rather obvious in retrospect) Marian / Marina thing.

Not convinced. Von's own explanation is completely different and doesn't mention Eliot:
http://www.the-sisters-of-mercy.com/gen ... aqnorm.htm

paint it black wrote:
seudo-mystical guff about kissing serpents

not mystical tis about cherry busting plain and simple

Not so much pseudo-mystical as just downright filthy.

And Marian as an anagram reference to Miriam? Not sure about that. First And Last was called Marian in the beginning - Marian was a Andrews ex-girlfriend, she was from Hamburg (for a few years Andrew refused to sing that song in Hamburg.

It is always a pleasure for me to read anything appreciating the lyrics of The Sisters of Mercy or their strategies ... ...

So, thank you for the link, Emerald Green ... ...

Marian / Marina ... hhm, with a little effort one might draw a line from Flood I to Flood II ...
but still, it seems as far fetched as the fact that Armani worked for Cerruti's Hitman before he build his own empire ...

He may be referencing Marina from Stingray - just a thought

Is it just me or is there anybody else who can't get to the said article?
I keep getting a totally blank page, whether with safari or firefox...

Emerald Green wrote: http://www.songwritingmagazine.co.uk/ap ... -eldritch/

playboy wrote:And Marian as an anagram reference to Miriam? Not sure about that. First And Last was called Marian in the beginning - Marian was a Andrews ex-girlfriend, she was from Hamburg (for a few years Andrew refused to sing that song in Hamburg.

I always though it was simply homage to Leonard Cohen.

lsind wrote:Is it just me or is there anybody else who can't get to the said article?
I keep getting a totally blank page, whether with safari or firefox...

Emerald Green wrote: http://www.songwritingmagazine.co.uk/ap ... -eldritch/

I had the same problems earlier today. There seem to be some difficulties on that page. Two hours ago, it did work perfectly, though.