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Apocalypse now (or maybe next week)
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 10:14
by paint it black
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 10:15
by markfiend
Tunguska 2?
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 11:06
by Pista
Where's Bruce Willis when you really need him?
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 11:59
by iesus
Impressive videos in youtube with the meteorites...
In fact reality is far more impressive than hollywood movies in such things
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 13:09
by markfiend
According to stuff I've read, this was all caused by a meteor about a metre across. Imagine the destruction caused by a big impact!
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 13:30
by iesus
According to military sites the object was larger and was hit by Moscow's Air defence S-400 missile or something similar.
There is a video with the traces of the meteor and the missile collision tracks in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... sNPIyxwPlE
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 14:26
by Pista
If that's right, that's some pretty good shooting.
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 15:01
by markfiend
iesus wrote:According to military sites the object was larger and was hit by Moscow's Air defence S-400 missile or something similar.
There is a video with the traces of the meteor and the missile collision tracks in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... sNPIyxwPlE
I call bull. No way will anyone hit a meteor travelling at 8km/s with anything.
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 15:05
by markfiend
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 15:10
by sultan2075
markfiend wrote:iesus wrote:According to military sites the object was larger and was hit by Moscow's Air defence S-400 missile or something similar.
There is a video with the traces of the meteor and the missile collision tracks in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... sNPIyxwPlE
I call bull. No way will anyone hit a meteor travelling at 8km/s with anything.
Why not? It seems (to my liberal-arts educated self) to be technically feasible: trajectory and speed can give you a location at a given point. I guess maybe you're suggesting that it's simply moving too fast for such action to be taken?
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 15:16
by iesus
Sultan2075 is correct, it is technically possible to locate that kind of objects with the current means and destroy it before it hits the surface of the planet.
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 15:28
by markfiend
It was a small object (maybe 1 or 2 metres across) coming in out of the sunrise at MACH 25. The "explosion" heard on the videos is a sonic boom (which is what caused the damage; hypersonic shockwaves are what knocked over all the trees at the Tunguska impact) but probably several km high, beyond the range of any surface-to-air missile. By the time anyone had seen the meteor coming, it had probably already disintegrated.
*Edit to add: and I'm not seeing any missile vapour-trails in that (or any other) video...
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 15:45
by Pista
As a famous man once said, " It's not impossible. I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home, they're not much bigger than two meters."
Seriously though, I'd say it's technically possible, but would still be a bl00dy good shot to bring something that small down at that speed.
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 15:48
by markfiend
Yeah, especially when it was travelling at five times the speed of the surface-to-air missile it was supposedly hit by.
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 16:08
by Pista
Yeah, well there is that.
Unless they were in front of it.
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 16:12
by christophe
if the object was discovered soon enough, I am sure a trajectory could have been made and a rocket could have been fired towards it, before it entered the atmosphere.
just aiming and shooting like some sites claimed is too ridiculous for words
apparently even the army is denying it now.
I'm not saying this is no tragedy but all things considered I think this could have been a lot worse.
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 16:13
by christophe
Pista wrote:Yeah, well there is that.
Unless they were in front of it.
I think it EVERYTHING was in front of it until a sew seconds before 'impact'
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 17:43
by nowayjose
iesus wrote:According to military sites the object was larger and was hit by Moscow's Air defence S-400 missile or something similar.
You mean, like:
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 18:24
by Pista
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 18:36
by iesus
Not a bad idea
I suspect WWF, Greenpeace etc.. will turn off the project of mass usage of birds for that kind of purposes
Also the army officers denied that they used air-to-air missiles.
They didn't say anything about ground-to-air toys
Posted: 15 Feb 2013, 19:38
by Bartek
I thought that at least here i can get away from that, even that i spent half of day offline and with no tv or radio (faking polish news channels keep talking about that all day since 7 a.m.).
Posted: 18 Feb 2013, 10:06
by markfiend
Apparently it was bigger than was first thought. About 15 metres across. It exploded about 100km up, and it seems that some pieces came to earth.
Posted: 18 Feb 2013, 11:26
by Pista
I read that too. & now there seems to be a spate of "fireball in the sky" sightings all over the place
Posted: 21 Feb 2013, 10:54
by Pista
We're not saying it was aliens............but it was aliens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... XdJ7wm4Opk
Posted: 21 Feb 2013, 11:41
by iesus