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Looking for more information on a poster

Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 22:26
by brunobossier
I have this poster for quite a while, but looking for some more historical information it. I think it's a German tour poster from 1983 but not sure.

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Anyone has some more info ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 22:38
by Pista
Can you blow up the bottom right corner a bit?

Isn't it The Sisters Of Mercy?

;D

Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 22:43
by brunobossier
It says :

Tourneeleitung :
Blindfish-Promotion
D-2000 Hamburg 13
Magdalenenstrasse 8
Tel : 040/41 74 43
Telex : 213828

Can someone who speaks German call this number please :-) ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 22:55
by Being645
brunobossier wrote:It says :

Tourneeleitung :
Blindfish-Promotion
D-2000 Hamburg 13
Magdalenenstrasse 8
Tel : 040/41 74 43
Telex : 213828

Can someone who speaks German call this number please :-) ?
This number doesn't exist anymore.... :wink: ...

However, the poster is definitely from before 1993, as that year the postal codes in Germany changed from four-digit to five-digit.

Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 23:03
by Victim of Circumstance
Being645 wrote:
brunobossier wrote:It says :

Tourneeleitung :
Blindfish-Promotion
D-2000 Hamburg 13
Magdalenenstrasse 8
Tel : 040/41 74 43
Telex : 213828

Can someone who speaks German call this number please :-) ?
This number doesn't exist anymore.... :wink: ...

However, the poster is definitely from before 1993, as that year the postal codes in Germany changed from four-digit to five-digit.
Not sure re this. Blindfish Promotions still seems to exist (according to the Google results), but the telephone no. mentioned seems to be a fax no. nowadays. The phone no. should be +49 40 44 13 43. However, I don't know if this no. still working or legacy...

Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 23:18
by Being645
Victim of Circumstance wrote:
Being645 wrote:
brunobossier wrote:It says :

Tourneeleitung :
Blindfish-Promotion
D-2000 Hamburg 13
Magdalenenstrasse 8
Tel : 040/41 74 43
Telex : 213828

Can someone who speaks German call this number please :-) ?
This number doesn't exist anymore.... :wink: ...

However, the poster is definitely from before 1993, as that year the postal codes in Germany changed from four-digit to five-digit.
Not sure re this. Blindfish Promotions still seems to exist (according to the Google results), but the telephone no. mentioned seems to be a fax no. nowadays. The phone no. should be +49 40 44 13 43. However, I don't know if this no. still working or legacy...
In 2008, they brought Billy Brag to Hamburg ... :wink: ...

This seems to be their email address: blifi@aol.com

Anyway, as they are obviously able to contract bands from abroad, they should have a good command of English ... :lol: ...

Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 23:41
by czuczu
I'm going to guess an 83 gig poster where the venue info would be added in the white strip at the bottom

Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 17:32
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
czuczu wrote:I'm going to guess an 83 gig poster where the venue info would be added in the white strip at the bottom
Not sure if that seemingly plausible story would fit the timescale with TOL coming out just when they stopped gigging. Could it be a poster for German indie record shops stocking the single back then, who were unaware of niceties such as correct font and definite article ?

Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 19:17
by xfloorshowx
When I bought the bootleg Live at Kir-Club from a german collector many years ago he included this poster and a ticket for the gig... so yes I'm pretty sure it was used as a tour poster.

Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 19:49
by brunobossier
So then my question is, what is the difference with this one which is I think is certainly a German tour poster from 83 :


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Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 20:06
by Being645
When looking at the Gigography, there were only four gigs in Germany in 1983 during the Trans-Europe Excess Tour.

Perhaps it was all planned differently ... only, The Sisters were able to contract for a short US-Tour (for the very first time).
So they might have slided those dates into Trans-Europe Excess ... giving up others ... (all speculation!!!)

Anyway, I'd also bet the first poster is of Kir Club, Hamburg, especially since the promoter is from Hamburg, too.

And the second one looks like from Moers, Aratta.

Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 21:15
by DocSommer
However, the poster is definitely from before 1993, as that year the postal codes in Germany changed from four-digit to five-digit.
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SCNR

Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 21:22
by Norman Hunter
They're all terrible.

Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 23:11
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
xfloorshowx wrote:When I bought the bootleg Live at Kir-Club from a german collector many years ago he included this poster and a ticket for the gig... so yes I'm pretty sure it was used as a tour poster.
Am still not convinced, as this would have been printed months before Temple of Love was released (in October 83). Were these not the first (and only for a long time) gigs where ToL was performed ? The promoter must have been very well-informed. As I think I've said before, IIRC the Sisters were lining up a much lengthier tour to promote ToL but Gunn's abrupt departure in September seemed to put an end to that.

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 00:13
by brunobossier
Maybe but they played Temple of love already since Amsterdam Paradiso end of August 83. So it's true it could be possible there was a longer tour planned in Germany to promote the release of Temple of Love for which these poster was made. A single release in October means it was already planned some time before and printing some posters does not take that long, certainly considering how simple the layout of the poster is.

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 00:19
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
Yea, you're right. And ToL was supposed to be released in September originally (according to the ZigZag interview) but like all MRs there seemed to be some slippage in the release date.

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 16:12
by Pista
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote: but like all MRs there seemed to be some slippage in the release date.
A bit like the new one right?
:innocent:

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 18:28
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
Pista wrote:
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote: but like all MRs there seemed to be some slippage in the release date.
A bit like the new one right?
:innocent:
:lol: I walked right on to that one, didn't I ?

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 23:01
by paint it black
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:Yea, you're right. And ToL was supposed to be released in September originally (according to the ZigZag interview) but like all MRs there seemed to be some slippage in the release date.
I think it was delayed to let a sisters roadie get his effort out first

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 23:13
by brunobossier
Well, if Temple of move was originally supposed to be release in september 83, then it makes perfect sense the German dates were planned around end of August, early september.

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 23:51
by Being645
paint it black wrote:
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:Yea, you're right. And ToL was supposed to be released in September originally (according to the ZigZag interview) but like all MRs there seemed to be some slippage in the release date.
I think it was delayed to let a sisters roadie get his effort out first
You're talking about this release ... :?: ...

brunobossier wrote:Well, if Temple of Love was originally supposed to be released in September 83, then it makes perfect sense the German dates were planned around the end of August, early september.
True.

Belgium, England, Belgium; then four dates in the The Netherlands and Germany, respectively

- and off to exceeding European Borders ...

Sweden was already a month after all that, nearly the end of October ...