Heartland

Posted: **31 Jul 2013, 12:25**

I've seen him in a couple of sisters floodland appearances too, I just wondered who he is, that's all.

Posted: **31 Jul 2013, 13:59**

Eddie Martinez, a session guitarist iirc

Posted: **31 Jul 2013, 16:45**

This could be him:
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/eddie-ma ... 0000794861

Posted: **31 Jul 2013, 16:51**

I think this looks more like him ...

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Eddie+Martinez

Posted: **31 Jul 2013, 18:10**

While we are on the subject of "who"
During the bus ride to work this morning,the mp3 player set to random gave me the Floodland version of Emma. I've always wondered who the musicians on that are.

Posted: **01 Aug 2013, 00:02**

I was lead to believe that the Floodland version was Andrew alone, but the amout of people who were ligging around at the time, could be anyone.

Posted: **01 Aug 2013, 10:04**

ribbons69 wrote:While we are on the subject of "who"
During the bus ride to work this morning,the mp3 player set to random gave me the Floodland version of Emma. I've always wondered who the musicians on that are.

From wikipedia:

Producer Hugh Jones: "Most of the music for 'Emma' was recorded at The Church Studios[47] in Crouch End, North London, with final overdubs and mixing done at Master Rock (horrible name!!) Studios[48] in Kilburn. Patricia did technically play bass on the track, although there was a lot of sampling individual phrases, moving them around and inserting them where we wanted. Yes indeed, we did record the vocals at a live venue. Andrew had attempted to record 'Emma' several times before but had never considered the result to be as good as when they played the song live. So we hired the Kilburn National Theatre[49] and the Rolling Stones Mobile recording truck, played the track to Andrew through the stage monitors, and recorded a number of performances with him singing on the stage. There were lights, dry ice, everything to invoke the atmosphere of a live experience (other than an audience!) The final result is a compilation of a number of those vocal 'takes'. Very indulgent, very eighties, particularly for a B-side!!"[50]

Making this is one of the numbers (or the one) on which Patricia definitely plays. I recall a bit somewhere in which she agrees to this, saying that the bass parts she recorded were moved around in production.

Posted: **01 Aug 2013, 17:16**

So we hired the Kilburn National Theatre[49] and the Rolling Stones Mobile recording truck, played the track to Andrew through the stage monitors, and recorded a number of performances with him singing on the stage. There were lights, dry ice, everything to invoke the atmosphere of a live experience

Christ, no wonder the label dropped him!

Posted: **01 Aug 2013, 22:47**

Also interesting: writing about his guitar collection in UTR, Eldritch stated that he played all the guitars on Floodland except for the solo on This Corrosion. I guess Emma might be him as well.

Posted: **02 Aug 2013, 10:45**

I think there was also a saxophone player somewhere in clips and played in album too,

might play the guitar but not the sax

Posted: **02 Aug 2013, 13:26**

IIRC the saxophone (in the video and TV clips) was mimed by James Ray. Can't remember who really played

Posted: **02 Aug 2013, 23:43**

centurionofprix wrote:Also interesting: writing about his guitar collection in UTR, Eldritch stated that he played all the guitars on Floodland except for the solo on This Corrosion. I guess Emma might be him as well.

At least one other guitarist, Sid McGinness, is credited in the liner notes and I seem to recall reading an interview where he confirmed that he played (although I can't produce it in evidence).

Every time this topic comes up I try - and fail - to find the post I made a couple of years ago detailing all the musicians mentioned in the liner notes. I'm sure I saved a copy too but can't find it now. There's at least one bass player (not named Patricia Morrison) and some keyboard players too I think. no guarantee that they all played as there's at least one drummer (Jimmy Bralower) mentioned too.

markfiend wrote:IIRC the saxophone (in the video and TV clips) was mimed by James Ray. Can't remember who really played

Carl Harrison.

Posted: **03 Aug 2013, 17:12**

stufarq wrote:Every time this topic comes up I try - and fail - to find the post I made a couple of years ago detailing all the musicians mentioned in the liner notes.

@stufarq: http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=511508#511508

Posted: **03 Aug 2013, 18:25**

lazarus corporation wrote:
stufarq wrote:Every time this topic comes up I try - and fail - to find the post I made a couple of years ago detailing all the musicians mentioned in the liner notes.
@stufarq: http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=511508#511508

Thanks. Why can I never find this myself?

Lenny Pickett was the saxophonist I identified in that post, not Carl Harrison.

And, looking at that list again, it seems clear that the first set of names in the thanks were friends and associates while the second set (the ones after the NY choral Society) were the musicians who presumably played on the album.

Posted: **07 Aug 2013, 16:07**

From your original list in the earlier thread (this is getting very complex) Tony K was of course the late Tony Kostrzewa, head of Red Rhino who helped the band out with the early singles during those cash flow problem years all Bamds face as they establish themselves. Nice to see

hadn't forgotten those who had contributed to his success.

Posted: **10 Aug 2013, 00:12**

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:From your original list in the earlier thread (this is getting very complex) Tony K was of course the late Tony Kostrzewa, head of Red Rhino who helped the band out with the early singles during those cash flow problem years all Bamds face as they establish themselves. Nice to see hadn't forgotten those who had contributed to his success.

Great, another ID'd.

And Keith Herd was the founder of fairview Studios in Liverpool, where Gift was recorded.

That just leaves Steve Watson and Pedro Moncada.

Posted: **10 Aug 2013, 21:00**

i think Pedro was one of the people in the bin

Posted: **10 Aug 2013, 21:12**

After asking around I have been told that the guitarist on T,O,T,P's was Pedro Moncada from Chili.

@ stufarq - Fairview Studios is in Willerby near Hull not Liverpool
http://fairviewrecording.co.uk/clients.html

And Steve Watson
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/steve-watson-bsc/18/aab/4a5

Posted: **10 Aug 2013, 21:15**

*Like*

Posted: **11 Aug 2013, 13:26**

paint it black wrote:i think Pedro was one of the people in the bin

The bin?

moses wrote:After asking around I have been told that the guitarist on T,O,T,P's was Pedro Moncada from Chili.

And Steve Watson
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/steve-watson-bsc/18/aab/4a5

Excellent. That's everyone accounted for. We should form our own detective agency.

moses wrote:@ stufarq - Fairview Studios is in Willerby near Hull not Liverpool
http://fairviewrecording.co.uk/clients.html

That's what I get for not reading properly. The first listing I read started with "Liverpool wasn't the only northern city with a thriving scene." I saw "Liverpool" and embarrassed myself in public. I'm deeply ashamed and should have my PI licence revoked.

Posted: **11 Aug 2013, 20:19**

stufarq wrote:
paint it black wrote:i think Pedro was one of the people in the bin
The bin?

In the TC video

Posted: **12 Aug 2013, 23:57**

markfiend wrote:
stufarq wrote:
paint it black wrote:i think Pedro was one of the people in the bin
The bin?
In the TC video

Oh, right.

Posted: **13 Aug 2013, 00:08**

yep, they were all in bins

Heartland

Who's the guitar player in TC video?

Who's the guitar player in TC video?