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Vinyl cuts not available on CD

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 14:49
by robertzombie
I've been trying to compile a list of all the tracks that were released on vinyl but haven't subsequently been released on CD (e.g. the Body & Soul b-sides).

I think I've got a complete list. There are a couple of times where 7" versions (e.g. This Corrosion) were released on promo CDs but not widely distributed, so I've included them.

Is this list correct?


Temple of Love 7"

Body Electric '84
Train
Afterhours

No Time to Cry 7" (is the 12" mix slightly different from the LP mix as well? Do the closing drums have more going on in the 12" mix?)

Giving Ground RSV & AV

This Corrosion 7" & 12"

Dominion 7" & 12"
Untitled (Long Version)

Driven Like the Snow (LP)

Doctor Jeep 7"
Burn (Live)
Amphetamine Logic (Live)

Temple of Love 1992 (7")

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 14:51
by robertzombie
I also wonder if the Vision Thing 12" sampler contains different mixes to the album. I can sometimes hear subtle differences (especially in the vocals on Vision Thing) but can never be sure!

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 14:54
by Bartek
Wiki says that Dr Jeep had/has same song on CD and vinyl. I got Dr Jeep CD, i can check that later.
TOL (original and '92) (short) is not available on CD.

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 15:40
by markfiend
IIRC if you really want the 7" versions of the two different ToL's just skip to the next track about halfway through. ;)

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 16:07
by robertzombie
Bartek wrote:Wiki says that Dr Jeep had/has same song on CD and vinyl. I got Dr Jeep CD, i can check that later.
TOL (original and '92) (short) is not available on CD.
The 1992 7" version is available on a CD promo, according to discogs. But I've included it here because it's (presumably) hard to find.

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 20:28
by bearskin
Long Train?

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 20:42
by robertzombie
That's on the Floodland reissue :)

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 22:38
by Bartek
it turned out that i got Dr Jeep CD >>"7<<, so it contains only KOHD (Bremen '85).

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 22:59
by Petseri
Bartek wrote:Wiki says that Dr Jeep had/has same song on CD and vinyl. I got Dr Jeep CD, i can check that later.
TOL (original and '92) (short) is not available on CD.
I think that I have the short versionof ToL92 on a German compilation. I will try to dig it out and check.

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 00:33
by Pista
markfiend wrote:IIRC if you really want the 7" versions of the two different ToL's just skip to the next track about halfway through. ;)
:lol:

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 00:51
by Dan
Perhaps include the This Corrosion cassette too as it contains different length versions, although I can't remember if they're truly different or just faded earlier.

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 08:57
by markfiend
Pista wrote:
markfiend wrote:IIRC if you really want the 7" versions of the two different ToL's just skip to the next track about halfway through. ;)
:lol:
Thanks Steve ;)

I give these people comedy gold and what do I get? I ask you!

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 09:03
by Bartek
I take TSOM songs very serious, so I can't laugh about them- jokes are inappropriate here. And TOL is a Gold of Gold, a Cheddar of Cheddar, Royal Baby of Royal Baby- a true fine arse.

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 09:28
by czuczu
You can also have a live version of ToL, skip to halfway through and then turn the bass all the way clockwise and the treble all the way anti-clockwise.

This works better with vinyl than cd though - you have the added bonus of playing at 33" ;D

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 12:58
by million voices
....you could also have your speakers lying on the floor, facing the floor, to help create that authentic live sound.

Then all you need do is invite round a mate who's taller than you so you can stand behind him and then open the freezer door

Better than being there

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 13:32
by Pista
See Mark?
Look what you started

:lol:

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 14:29
by Dan
million voices wrote:....you could also have your speakers lying on the floor, facing the floor, to help create that authentic live sound.

Then all you need do is invite round a mate who's taller than you so you can stand behind him and then open the freezer door

Better than being there
And for the bootleg video experience: put the speakers under water and set fire to the room!

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 14:37
by markfiend
On the homepage re: "Sisters Chat"
This is one of the few tightly-moderated forums on Heartland, so please keep on-topic. All off-topic posts will either be moved or deleted.
:innocent:

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 14:40
by Bartek
Self-censorship, Mark ? :wink:

Re: Vinyl cuts not available on CD

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 21:05
by stufarq
robertzombie wrote:Driven Like the Snow (LP)
I didn't know the LP and CD versions were different (or possibly I did but have forgotten). How different are they?

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 21:32
by Petseri
Petseri wrote:
Bartek wrote:Wiki says that Dr Jeep had/has same song on CD and vinyl. I got Dr Jeep CD, i can check that later.
TOL (original and '92) (short) is not available on CD.
I think that I have the short versionof ToL92 on a German compilation. I will try to dig it out and check.
Excuse the interruption...

4:40 and 4:21 are the track times which I have found on two compilations. One track is annotated with (Single Version). I will be brutally open here: I did not play them so I am entirely not sure if they are the 1992 version or not, but the release dates of the compliations makes me think so. I will try to get back with more details. :oops:

Posted: 01 Aug 2013, 22:05
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
Going back to the original list, it would have made sense for Warners to put the Body and Soul B sides on a "remastered" version of ASCOoB when they were doing the Original Album series back in 2006, removing a couple of the non-(proper) singles (eg VT, DB) from the earlier release so that they'd fit on the disc, as then (apart from the aforementioned alternative extended/curtailed versions) we'd have pretty much everything. Digitally remastered Peel Sessions would also be fantastic, especially for Good Things, Jolene and the (radically different) NTTC.

Re: Vinyl cuts not available on CD

Posted: 02 Aug 2013, 11:45
by robertzombie
stufarq wrote:
robertzombie wrote:Driven Like the Snow (LP)
I didn't know the LP and CD versions were different (or possibly I did but have forgotten). How different are they?
The LP version lacks the extended 40 second ambient intro that's on the CD.

Posted: 02 Aug 2013, 21:52
by JohnR
The Some Boys Wander boot includes what is labeled as "Body and Soul (Special 12" EP Version)." Are there actually different mixes of this song? Does Slight Case of Overbombing include the 7" mix, and this 12" mix is unavailable on CD?

Re: Vinyl cuts not available on CD

Posted: 02 Aug 2013, 22:45
by stufarq
robertzombie wrote:
stufarq wrote:
robertzombie wrote:Driven Like the Snow (LP)
I didn't know the LP and CD versions were different (or possibly I did but have forgotten). How different are they?
The LP version lacks the extended 40 second ambient intro that's on the CD.
Hadn't even noticed. Thanks.