Heartland

This may have been asked before, but does anybody know
where the front cover photo comes from? A still from a
movie perhaps?

I seem to remember someone once saying that it's a still from a short film depicting a Victorian funeral procession.

No idea if that's correct, or what the film was.

I think that may have been me and I couldn't remember if I'd read that somewhere or just thought that's what it looked like.

Record Collector suggested that, but which church? I have my own ideas after too many years of looking. you would think someone would recognise it. Then we could turn it into a sisters shrine

Sisters Shrine.. Sweet suffering Jesus.....

Austin Powers would be a better role model.. still stuck in the past

according to modern folklore, Jesus loves the sisters, so i doubt he'll be suffering too much

other shrines are available, usual terms and conditions apply.

paint it black wrote:Record Collector suggested that, but which church? I have my own ideas after too many years of looking. you would think someone would recognise it. Then we could turn it into a sisters shrine

I recall someone once saying that the church in question was in Walsall (in English West Midlands region known as the Black Country so suitably goff !).

Could be ...

http://cdn.collectionsbase.org.uk/gb148/swc3666_1_4.jpg

paint it black wrote:Record Collector suggested that, but which church? I have my own ideas after too many years of looking. you would think someone would recognise it. Then we could turn it into a sisters shrine

Maybe that's where I read it.

We discussed the church at least a few times, so the correct info is for sure in some thread, i guess its not the church suggested above as you can see. I would Have to check some old harddiscs

Last time I spoked with Gary Marx, he doesnt remember which pic were used

taylor wrote:Last time I spoked with Gary Marx, he doesnt remember which pic were used

good that you asked him Taylor. Shame though... we need a shrine

taking the link above, there is a St John's Church, Walsall which, though heavily modified, looks like it might fit the bill

The church and its surrounding wall on the Damage Done cover look to me as though they're flint-built and that St John's in Walsall is brick.

For reference.

There's a church near me rather similar to that
But it doesn't have the cross on the top so I guess it's not the genuine article.

well from my studies over the years and not that comprehensive

it's probably late Saxon/ early Norman so C12 or there about

it's quite unusual in that the tower (assuming there is one is to the right). The majority are to the left - unless it's a back entrance - which makes this even more unusual

it's quite unusual in that there appears to be only one window, normally they are in pairs

after over analyzing DD for too long, the entrance is to be assumed to be near the middle of the church

as Mark points out, it's Saxon style stone, not brick

it's small (so possibly a private chapel) and that is reinforced by the fact that the entrance into the church is such a short distance from the main entrance

there does seem to be (possibly~) some tall gravestones to the left of shot

we found reptile house cover, this should be a doddle

million voices wrote:There's a church near me rather similar to that
But it doesn't have the cross on the top so I guess it's not the genuine article.

You must be near the Japanese bootleg abbey!

I think Norman windows were generally (but not always) rounded at the top rather than coming to a point.

The single lancet window on the church is - snigger - Gothic in shape, with minimal ornamentation, so I'm going to go for a period 100 years later than PiB suggested and say it's Early English Gothic architecture circa 1200-1300 - unless of course we're dealing with some late 19th Century Gothic Revival monstrosity.

Flint was used as a construction material for churches in this period, especially on the Southern half of England - anywhere from Cornwall to the South Downs and as far north as East Anglia.

Edit to add: I'd put money on the church being dedicated to "St Andrew".

Having been dragged round more than a few churches as a child by a father who regarded Pevsner as something of a saint, I would agree with the Gothic diagnosis for the windows.
My eye was always drawn more to the gates which have an unusual cross carving not dissimilar to the old (fascistic) British Movement logo. These are quite distinctive so should help to identify the church but possibly no longer in existence. Most church gates have been wrought iron for the past century or so. Is there an ecclesiastical architecture forum we could turn to for help ?
Incidentally I've always found the "funeral procession" description odd too, given what the chap on the left is wearing ...

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:...My eye was always drawn more to the gates which have an unusual cross carving not dissimilar to the old (fascistic) British Movement logo....

It's a Celtic cross. Quite common in Cornish churches I believe (as was flint as a construction material, as I mentioned above)

thanks for the info guys,

agree, i've never thought it likely it was a funeral procession, perhaps the matching hats ** with black band mean something.. will keep looking

i know they're boaters

Always thought the girl at the front was photoshopped, 80's style naturally

I would go further than PiB: the fact that there's a cross on the top of the gable-end suggests that the church doesn't have a tower at all.

Re the clothing: it looks to me just like standard late-Victorian or Edwardian clothing; I wonder if it's just a normal Sunday service?

Actually, just a thought, is it even necessarily a church at all? I know the crosses are suggestive, but other buildings do have them.

maybe a private chapel in the grounds of some big country house?